I’m sure you’ve all seen the threads/comments screaming that our beloved Co-op (and SCII), is dead. So i have to ask everyone who thought that, do you still? Or is the addition of a new commander, a patch, and cosmetics within the last month enough for us all to consider it ‘alive’ again?
Personally, I’ve always thought that as long as it has a player base and bug fixes, coop is alive. Maybe not thriving, but alive and well; I don’t think it ever really died, and hope it won’t.
Personally, I’ve always thought that as long as it has a player base and bug fixes, coop is alive. Maybe not thriving, but alive and well; I don’t think it ever really died, and hope it won’t.
Well, we literally have just had tons of bug fixes (along with new bugs).
We have a new commander, and imo we are getting more. Why not?
We had our 2 delayed for a year aprox revamps.
I play almost every day, never have to w8 more than 3/4 mins for a match. The coop chat always has a good number of players.
What on earth makes you think coop is dead? I mean b4 last revamp I started to think so, bc of lack of communication and silence, but now? Don’t all those signals just tell you that coop is alive and so will be with more content?
Depend greatly on how you define “death”.
If death is by devs no longer support it than coop is about emergency room stage.
If death is by the number of people playing it, coop is ok. Not as bad as some games where you have to wait 40+ mins for a match.
If death is by the number of people talking about it, coop is pretty lively to the point that trolls are still scavenging this forum.
If death is by how fans still support it then coop is definitely not death because there are still people buying it.
One of some community i can say is “death” is Age of Mythology which is abandon-ware right now due to the cashgrab attitude of the latest expansion.
The red alert 3 is also quite dead that offline and some basic modding is all it is right now.
Supreme Commander 1: Forged Alliance is a rare case where the game outlived its studios and still have patches and updated released by fans with mod community running and server dedicate for online players.
Warcraft 3 is definitely more alive than coop for sure and I don’t think it will die anywhere soon.
If death is by the number of people talking about it, coop is pretty lively to the point that trolls are still scavenging this forum.
LMFAO.
One of some community i can say is “death” is Age of Mythology which is abandon-ware right now due to the cashgrab attitude of the latest expansion.
You know, nowadays my fav game due to spent hours is definitely SCII and bc of everything the game has to offer and the best part is still supported.
But in the past it was AoM for the same reason, I just adored that game. The gods/dess, calldowns, units comps, it only lacked a coop mode.
The last thing isn’t even an expansion, it’s an amateur dlc that literally broke the game. It was a bug fest at release. “Devs” who were actually modders just stop answering the forums and let the game die.
With time, new bugs and exploits came and I got fed up of it. I also tried AoE2 which is pretty decent and is alive too. But imho none of them can make a shadow of our glorious SCII which is definitely my #1 rts game 
I was doing the tales of dragon campaign and the heroes don’t even work the way it should be. The dialogue is even worse. Storyline is not even near amateur fanfic i read for free online. The gameplay and units, good Satan, it is dumber than Baldrick at Blackadder Ss4.
Before that expansion the forum got more people talking than it is now. I really like the depth and complexity of AOM. It’s so sad to see how it ended.
Yeah, there were some missions that couldn’t be completed bc of bugs, lack of voices on campaign unlike the whole game. The new story had nothing to with the original game. The Chinese dragon wasn’t even Chinese, it was from somewhere else. An archi ultra broken new civ that had horses costing only 1pop so ppl just spammed it and owned the map. Never will understand why MS hired those guys. Just stick to AoM and its only legit expansion Titans, the rest, don’t even touch.
Of course it is dead and it will stay dead. We had 4 commanders in 2016, 3 in 2017 and 2 in 2018. As for maps, I don’t even remember when cradle of death was released for it was too long ago, and it is still the latest map. lmao.
Kevin Dong refused to communicate with the community. Instead, he just gave us what he thought cool and did not care about anything else.
It’s not just co-op, the whole Sc2 will rest in peace. Honestly speaking, I won’t be surprised at all if there is no WCS next year or the year after.
In fairness, that’s what a ton of people said about the Diablo franchise, especially after the “cell phones” fiasco last BlizCon, and that Kotaku news story recently suggests that quite to the contrary they’re about to unveil Diablo 4.
Blizzard is a highly successful gaming company, companies are successful by making savvy business decisions, and it is not in their business interests to scrap an exalted franchise and discard its IP. As far as coop being dead, well, as Daegoth said in this thread, it’s not really “dead” if it’s being developed, we literally just got a commander a couple weeks ago, and also a busy patch.
Almost exactly a year ago; June 19, 2018. It’s beyond ridiculous now especially given that there have been 3 commanders in that time.
No one knows the reasons for the long silence, let alone why things have happened the way they have. All we got to go on are reports of internal drama within Blizzard over the last 18 months.
For all we know, Monk could just be following instructions from his superiors thus he was gagged from talking to the community.
It’s a pretty bad look regardless.
It’s a 9 year old game after all; how much more can they squeeze out of it?
Don’t think of it as a game, think of it as a franchise. Because it IS a franchise.
For example, the very first Final Fantasy was published in 1987. Does that in any way mean that FF as a whole is a 32 year old game? No, because they keep releasing content.
Starcraft is on a low gas cooker right now because they only have so much resources, which is why that SC shooter had to be canned. Still, if you look at the global importance of Starcraft, there is no way in heck Bliz will let it end like this. Asia has been obsessed with Starcraft in the same way Russia is obsessed with chess, and as a Russian I can tell you that’s pretty obsessed. Every once in a while you hear of a crazy kid (usually in Korea) who died after playing Starcraft for like 52 hours without sleeping, eating, or taking breaks.
Diablo 4 has to be released as soon as possible because the franchise fans are really ticked off, especially after last year’s BlizCon debacle, which apparently is being used in marketing textbooks as the very definite thing you never want to do in marketing. And Overwatch 2 has to be released as soon as possible because it’s a young and very popular franchise which – as an OW fan myself I can tell you – is desperately in need of a viable PvE function, which the fans badly want and that is essentially what Overwatch 2 will be.
Diablo 3 came out a very long time ago, and there have been many people speculating that Diablo as a franchise was going to be discarded, a belief that wasn’t exactly without foundation given the poor support D3 has been receiving and how long ago it came out. But, it’s pretty clear now that despite the long wait, Diablo franchise is very much going to continue. I think Starcraft is the same story. The game has literally global importance. I am not the CEO of Blizzard or anything, but they’d have to be crazy to scrap it.
Sorry for the tl;dr.
What I said was confined to SC2 as a game on its own. It had nothing to do with the franchise.
What Blizzard decides to do with Starcraft as a franchise beyond 2019 / 2020 is a different thing altogether.
Apologies, I misunderstood you. Not sure what else to add, sorry about that.
I think part of this was due to acquisition of destiny 2, but Worlds of Starcraft would have been awesome. Also that firing 8% their of employees despite making huge profits last year was for devs to get more support and the men in suits to give themselves a raise. As far as the silence even if Monk wasn’t told to keep quiet would you want to get canned at your dream job (or at least a good job) for speaking out and drawing attention to yourself while the men upstairs are evaluating if/when/how to do their next purge to increase profits by cutting costs instead of providing quality?
People ask if co-op is dying, but the issues come from player base, revenue, and budgeting. We have a strong player base but revenue doesn’t compete with Wow/Overwatch/Micro transaction city. Most of us bought the game/commanders and said that is good since skins do nothing for coop, other games release buckets of stuff behind a subscription fee (WoW) and/or lootboxes/microtransactions. Some states are considering outlawing microtransactions in games played/targeted for minors. On one hand outlawing loot boxes will murder revenue, but it will force some necessary changes. I just wish that we could get that funding other games get without SC2 turning into Candy Crush.
I want Blizzard to create a new map, not only to adapt comunity maps. Then the picture is more clear.
New maps, made well, would be wonderful. I am not so particular how they actually go about making them, provided the maps are made well.
Have hope! Someday we Starcrafties will be vindicated, until then we get to speculate what the campaign of SCIII will look like.
Maybe undead Arcturus Mengsk? Or, Xel’Naga Kerri and Raynor’s highly gifted, highly evolved babies?
We will have our day in the sun, don’t you worry. Until then, just keep lighting up Tychus’s cigar and pour Raynor a drink and don’t worry. 
SC3 should have none of the Sc1/2 terran characters or any xelnaga.
(zerg and protoss are excusable because of long life, but sc3 should not be a sequel to sc 1/2 but totally new story in same universe)
Why not descendants of people in SC & SCII? For example, Vorazun was daughter to Raszagal.
Or maybe child of Kerri and Raynor is hanging out with child of Han and Horner, and then Nova’s kid sneaks up on them cloaked and does a peek-a-boo.
Tychus and Layna Nikara’s kid, too, plz.
If SC3 makes it sometime it I’d love to finally see a fourth race at least, if not more. Maybe a race based on plants and vegetation, maybe a playable and not so op hybrids (toss&zerg). Regarding the lore, they have infinite resources, such as civil wars, descendants from previous chars as Serenicus proposed, etc.
Some ppl argued that we can’t have a SC3 bc Amon was an almighty entity and there is no room for more villains due to lack of power. However and once more, we don’t need to have more powerful enemies. That shouldn’t be a limitation in case they plan to continue this successful rts franchise.
I don’t recall for sure, but aren’t Nova’s Mission Packs after Legacy of the Void?
Without getting Amon-like super entities involved, I imagine they could do some good old Dominion intrigue, or get the Dominion destabilized and there’s a Union/Confederacy-like civil war. Maybe during that, the bad guys that engineered the civil war antagonize the Zerg and the Protoss, and it escalates into a major crisis.
I agree there’s probably not going to be something like Amon, but guys like Arcturus Mengsk are always around, and though Mengsk was not as ancient or smart as Amon or Narud, he managed to do a lot of damage.
I don’t recall for sure, but aren’t Nova’s Mission Packs after Legacy of the Void?
AFAIR yes they are, they are an immediate continuation to the epilogue from LotV. COOP is somewhat half canon and Nova only gets access to Griffin during her chapters dlc however she has it in coop too which is supposed to happen b4 LotV ends.
I’m not sure but believe that Nikara medic only exists on coop missios for Tychus gameplay, so an heir from that couple wouldn’t be viable. Regarding Nova didn’t know anything about her affairs and HH’s childs is the most possible. But again, dunno much about their lore, so I could be wrong.