How is liberator fair in TvP?

Are you saying Thor is a fine unit? It downright kills air composition. The only air unit that beats Thor is tempest, and even then, by only 1 range.
Are you saying BC’s is a finely designed unit? Burst with a panic escape button?
Imagine if DTs can blink across the map instantly. Even then, BC’s would still be more broken than DTs.

Bio are badly designed. They benefit from upgrades WAY more than any unit composition just because of the sheer number bio muster. Then comes Terran player whining about having to deal with aoe, when there’s no other way to beat mass bio other than having aoe.

HA

Oh no, I press T, and move back, and then a-move to let the AI do most of the work. Jeez, if only zealots can do that.
Immortals are REQUIRED to target-fire marauders. The AI they have aren’t that smart.

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There’s already one on top. Do I need to babysit and spoon-fed all information to you?
It’s obviously not my replay, because I am a lowly Diamond, so I gave you a Pro match replay.
It’s a youtube video, game 3, if you want the replay pack, find it yourself.

IDC about pro replay I want to watch your replay becuse you are not pro
Do I need to spoon you to post replay, baby?
Cuz here I am
With no replay
Waiting for your replay
LONGING for your replay
DESIRING only your replay
I need your replay
I need it
Pls
Post replay

Why
Would
You
Want
To
See
A
NOOB
REPLAY?
On a side note, I don’t play Protoss anymore. So, nah.

Why
Would
A
Noob
Spend
This
Much
Time
Giving
Other
People
His
Noob
Opinion

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Cause it hurts your soul when you see a match up is clearly problematic but people think everything is fine.
It’s like living in the 1900’s where slavery was still a thing and you think it’s fine because everyone think it’s fine.
PvT is so Terran favoured it’s not even funny.
Protoss player constantly needs to find new and more wacky ways to play the game to have a 50% winrate against Terran. Considering how much more work they are putting to make more build orders that no-one understand yet so that they can have an edge on the game, it’s astoundingly dumb.

What has Terran player changes in their build order?
3rd CC before Starport?
What else?

What has Protoss player changes in their build order?
oh, I don’t know, effing everything?
Who even opens robo now, everyone opens twilight because Terran still doesn’t understand how to play against it, but complains anyway because they aren’t handed their free wins.
Some Protoss even open Stargate against Terran. WHO DOES THAT, IS THIS HoTS?!

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Country I grew up in has slavery. Slavery still happen in world today
Country I grow up in if you go to jail (for making whine thread with no replay) then u know who feed u? Nobody. If you family not come feed you, you am died
Where is replay?

http://sc2replaystats.com/account/display/53306
I’m not gonna feed you. Check them yourself.

I can’t watch it I’m on my phone lol

Can u put it in a streamable

I am not going to read the comments to see if anyone said this, but you gotta make tempests. You might say: “They suck.” You have to give it the Harstem treatment. He says sure they suck, but how else do you expect me to counter this (he was referring to Broodlords at that time). If you have them, and you keep the fight on their side of the map, you will be fine.

“A unit being able to stay safe in the dead zone with it’s 13 range that is good against all Protoss Ground units and is only countered by Tempest, which is countered by any Terran unit that shoots up, now that’s not fair.”

Basically:
Liberators are good against a lot of Protoss stuff.
Tempests are only good against Liberators and are bad against everything else. Tempest don’t even on shot marine ffs.

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Did Harstemn say that? I am a toss main so just to be clear I am not against you on this, but I do think you have to use the tools given if they are garbage.

No, I was quoting my self.

I’m just saying liberators aren’t fair in TvP.
I’m not saying they are not counterable or you can’t win against them, it’s just, much harder to do so as Protoss rather than as a Terran.

Yea the thing is though that once you clear through the Vikings they make to defend liberators, the Tempests just get free reign. They start killing libs, then tanks, then medivacs. It is definitely a lot less fair for the Protoss because obviously we don’t typically make 3 stargates plus a fleet beacon (which is how many stargates are needed to have any decent production levels) unless the terran is going libs.

Nah, you can reactor a liberator

Except that Tempest are also great against BCs… Some one is just not wanting to use all the units at their disposal

Is this too theoretical for you? How about this?

Tempest are good against BC’s? Woah.

Wiat, how did I post vids. wat

Or you can do disruptor/blink stalker combo , as beautifully shown by Harstem below (i pasted more or less the relevant start) , altough you need god like micro…

Highly reccomend to watch it , its amazing.And a huge shoutout to Terrans talking about A moving Protoss lol…

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That is a dishonest post and not how the game plays out. Of course if tempest attack BCs head on they lose. Games don’t play out how they do in the simulator. usually Tempest are kiting back and they could kite BCs forever unless they port on top of them. Which is risky.

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