I disagree, is the nature of every race to be evolving, you could be adding new tweaks eternally at a slow pace if u r creative enough. AoE2 has a fraction of SC2 players and almost double the age but still being developed, that is the point of the comparison.
Anyways, this is future speculation and the future will show us what Microsoft decides and who is right. May I say I have a good record with Microsoft predictions, even predicting they could buy actiblizz long before the fact in this very forums.
And as I keep pointing out. That works for AoE2 because every faction has access to similar tech and similar units. Microsoft can splinter off a new AOE2 faction with slightly different stats or abilities whenever they want.
You cannot do that in StarCraft. There are 3 factions, they play very differently, and if you make changes that imbalance a particular unit or mechanic you are just going to cause problems.
actiblizz did it for all the years the game was developed, they only stoped because the game was dropped. Is still being done today to a lesser degree by the balance council, but they are limited because they cant add new units or structures, the last addition I remember from blizz was the battery overcharge, u just assume the job will be bad, it doesnt has to be if u know what u r doing.
Blizzard has NEVER made a new faction for multiplayer like Microsoft does on a regular basis for AoE2, and they cannot do so without completely breaking the game, because the factions are so asymmetrical.
The few balance patches that do get made to StarCraft II are usually aimed at fixing an imbalance, a problematic mechanic, or a bad unit design; and those arenāt the kinds of changes you can do or need to do over and over again unless you are always making terrible decisionsāIn which case it would be better not to get involved at all.
As I keep emphasizing, Microsoft can pretty much keep expanding AoE2 indefinitely. They always just spin off another faction that fits a certain rubric (some mix of barracks, archery, stables, or siege play) and make a few slight changes to distinguish the faction while its power is kept in-line with similar factions. Thatās relatively easy to do when all of the factions share the same units and tech-tree, but it is not reasonable to do in a game with completely asymmetric factions.
Cater to only a portion of the fanbase, and in doing shrink the pool of people even more. Charge those who remain, assuming growth after cutting off the on ramps for new players. Gotta say, thatās a bold move Cotton.
Imagine crying that you get kicked out of a restaurant because āthe restaurant favors paying customersā and āthe restaurant is shrinking their customer baseā and tell the owners āthatās a bold move, cotton.ā Your logic is absurd in any other context. Itās not the end of the world to pay $5 a month for a service that you enjoy. It really isnāt. 99.999% of people could afford that. Thatās pocket change. I spend more every day when I stop to get a cookie and a soda at the gas station.
Youād spend 4x that buying a sangria at olive garden. The other day I was at a hole in the wall mexican restaurant. It was authentic. The waitress brought out an entire pineapple that had the top cut off, the insides turned into a smoothie, and a big straw in it. I was like what is that. $40 bucks later I had a rum and tequila pineapple smoothie and it was worth every cent.
These arguments about $5 a month are very comical. Most sc2 players are 15+ and thatās working age in most places. I have a nephew and he makes $300 a week working part time. $5 is nothing, especially if it went towards supporting something you enjoy.
I guarantee you in EU only Germany and France would play what idiot would give 5$ for 01 you would again see resurrection of battle4starcraft the proper and chosen way to play starcraft 2 at the end they had implemented some beta ladder i miss those days
Nah you canāt say it hasnāt affected business. With the end of warchests, Nova campaign and such thereās no more content to pay for, no income from this game. The fact that they cared less and less about SC2 on Blizzcon already shows they have fallen with RTS, scene is also dying with GSL not what it was. players moving on with life or mil service, see Stats and many others are a SC2 ruin pale remnant of their past self that and with this epic fail of war3 regforged
Even Diablo genre, after Immortal was a hit to them, I do not think people are so impressed with D4 either. I myself would complete it once thatās it I dont care about lvl 99.
WoW is already nothing like what people liked in WotLK you canāt say that they are not on decline. They are just too large to collapse.
In fact you proly know that Stormgate was recently heard to have financial; limits with how they look for investors as they seemingly have the budget to complete the game to early Access which is before say the complete campaign and everything that comes after is done, say by this summer, anything else is not guaranteed which is a bummer. And in recent interview Laforge said how they miss the Marketing dept something that make SC2 need like 100M $ (some say) and is missing. So my point since everything is so polished as departments and stuff as you say Blizz canāt just collapse but certainly the playerbases from all their games have pulled away and that means less income. In 2018-19 I was repeatedly matching same players in under M league, I can imagine how even more playerbase dwindled in SC2 today.
Ah yes add a monthly subā¦ and just see how much SC2 will be played LOL . I can bet only regular GMs and streamers plus f ew others. Maybe you get same 50 people. Like those once existing before I got to the bnet. local fake servers. Do this to a game that already is just nearly done and see the result lololol
I made my point already in few other posts, im not looking at SC2 anymore to support it. But I understand well enough what would happen. YOu here are the ones that will continue crying about balance and matchups and what not
That would change approximately 0.00001 seconds after you saw how much fun people were having on the new content. Youād see 1 PiG video and youād be buying a 12 month bundle discount, and youād check the āauto renewā box. Iāve been a salesmen long enough to know that people talk a tough game when they really want something. A person who wasnāt interested wouldnāt even have the conversation ā they wouldnāt waste the time. Everyone crying about it would buy it in a heartbeat. The people who wouldnāt arenāt even here.
I once sold a car for a discount. It was a flaming red 1988 pontiac firebird with a 5.9 liter v8. I had cash flow issues and needed to make a payment. I needed it gone asap. So I listed it for a massive discount. Weāre talking an $8,000 discount. It was such a crazy discount, I was visited by THREE separate law enforcement agencies who thought it was a scam. One of the agencies set up a sting. They said they wanted to buy it and had a cashiers check. They asked if I could meet at a walmart. So I drive up there to this walmart and the ride it just a blast. Get all kinds of people looking, waving, honking. It gets tons of attention with a perfect paint job and a lopey cam. I am at this random walmart 100 miles away and I run into someone I havenāt seen in 10 years. I was like, holy cow, this guy is the ex husband of my sister. Heās really into cars so weāre all talking when the police sting operation goes down. A guy shows up and starts asking me all about it. I show him itās all legit and he says I have to be honest with you. I am a police officer and my coworkers are in that cruiser over there. We thought you were running a scam, but you have one fine machine here. So now me, my sisterās ex husband, and a bunch of cops are talking about my car. It was flipping annoying that I drove all the way out there for no reason though.
Crazy enough it actually blew a relay on the way home & I had to have it towed. $20 relay and she was up and running again. I sold it to a guy who was a forklift repair man. He was looking at it like it was wearing high heels and a short skirt. He goes down to the bank and takes out a loan. You donāt ever list it for $12,000, you list it for $11,995. They look at the first digit. Itās true, they do. So he brings back a check for $12000 and gives it to me and drives off before I can give him a refund. He loops back a minute later and asks if I want I ride. I ask him if he wants $5. Heās like nah aināt worth the time and he takes off to the free way. So I am walking home with a big check attached to my clipboard. It was a garbage clip board because the check goes flying off into the middle of a 4 way intersection. I am blocking multiple lanes of traffic as I run around like a mad man chasing this check. good times
My grandfather was a car salesman. I barely knew the guy. By the time I came around he was lost to age. People like to think they are their own self but really they are their ancestors born again. Itās reincarnation.
I paid the price worth 4-5 times a new game. For something that isnāt 100% guaranteed if it will last as many years or like at least 4-5 years. But there is no other RTS of that kind. Like some diamond said on reddit - started playing SG no reason to go back to SC2. At least there isnāt a race made entirely of cheese - if I have to retrospect about protoss:
hots: blink stalkers, into DTs into storm
lotv: again some DT cheeses although more stoppable, the games on Abiogenesis, prism immortals (oh Acid Bath Le). prism disruptors, storm spams, disruptors, skytoss by 70APM-ers, 2018-2019 where everybodyās TvP dropped under 45%. Marauder was not even reverted. Now I see they complain of T uh well too late Titanic sank, no need of a rescue boat.
I can feel even the people who complain about mines and BC jumps
I know there are only 2 races but none of them feel as cheesy as anything protoss. There isnāt oops he entered my ramp, bane bust! or roach ravager! A lot more normal than what SC2 offered but sure I will give monthly to this disappearing game. SC2 is only good for pro players, streamers who with top skill can earn bucks. The game had its glory, smiles, and tears but now is not worth the time.
My man you cope so much its insane; I know you think you know it all; but youāve proven to be incorrect again and again and againā¦ just in this thread alone. Youāre simple someone who will not move from their position no matter how much evidence is presented. Aint nothing we can do save you. gl in life tho ur gonna it!
Blizz never fellā¦ thatās so damn funny you made my day
Luckily, my ācopeā is not some subjective opinion, but instead is simply financial numbers, Furaijin. Thus itās not remotely a matter of āknowing it allā in this case.
In popular opinion, sure. Financially? No, they never have, and that is only what I was talking about here, as I already pointed out earlier in this thread (and explicitly clarified to you above). No need to āmove from my positionā because itās not my position, itās Wall Streetās.
So, you revive a dead thread 2 months later in some sort of gotcha attempt, only to completely miss your marks. Bizarre way to make oneās day, but, to each their own.
Iām wondering how many Terrans are in the council, it seems like no one care about terranās late game for the un-pro level. Mess mirco needed and two of other race just can do A move and destory everything with the same economy. The mirco needed for late game terran is unfair, even for the pro-level. Now, like protoss, can easily defend any kind of push with 3 bases open for the ealry game with same level opponent, is this a real strategy game?
There are a lot in it obviously. And they have much to say. In the Patch before Last Patch they Said yeah we definetly gonna buff protoss because they need a looooot of Help. But instead they completly reworked the cyclone and Made it way too Strong (i Heard Claims it was basically the idea of Spirit). They nerfed Them a Bit and now it seems fine. You can still Rush Them and win with a Minimum effort to m1 tho.
You know, I genuinely doubt that - I suspect thereās a good number of all three races. Yeah, Cyclones got another rework (and then immediately got nerfed - itās significantly worse now, you almost never see them outside of maybe TvT, and the very rare TvZ Mech). Mothership got reworked too, which I realise might seem like a meme, but since it got reworked weāve already seen an increase in the number of times weāve seen the unit used and be used successfully compared to its use previously.
Much of the help that Protoss got was in nerfs to the other races and their particularly problematic units that Protoss has to deal with. Libs. Ghosts. Mines. Lurkers. And itās worked extremely well.
The funny thing is that Protoss units arenāt weak. Theyāve never been weak, even gateway units arenāt weak, contrary to popular opinion.
The reality is that we donāt know whoās on the team and whoās not on the team, aside from, I think, PiG.
I support OP suggestion 100 %. I want ābalance councilā to be gone and replaced by competent/non-biased people.
Iām sick of zerg winning premier tournaments since 2017, plus they KEEP BUFFING zerg which is unthinkable. Since 2017 zerg received only one meaningful nerf - removal of infested terran and that is it.
Enough is enough. Begone ābalance councilā !!!
good times 
