How does Protoss pressure zerg early? How does zerg pressure early? How does terran pressure protoss early?

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Serious question.

My main struggle in PvZ is applying any pressure outside of 2 adepts. Feels like any ground push will die to mass lings before archon/storm/coli. Also any robo or twilight build tends to get contained by mutas. So I play phoenix as my pressure, because it’s the only early build I know that can’t die to mass ling.

My struggle in ZvT is similar, off creep I can’t seem to do anything to them outside a ravager all in + queen march. I notice even GM’s play this defenisvely. Usually you have to hold a BC rush + hellion driveby anyway.

Again, TvP (pre stim) is also similar. Seems like gateway will just reck you pre stim, forcing defensive play early on.

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adepts or Dt/archon drop.If not,charge rush and archons. If you make adepts with ugrade,be careful,they must be made on the proper timing or they wont do anything and you will lose the game.

Harstem uploaded the other day some kind of two base all in with collo against Z .

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You don’t.

As Protoss, you wall in, and go for a fast Stargate into Void Rays, Mass Gateway into Templar + Zealot, or fast Robo Bay into Warp Prism + Immortal juggling.

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Void Rays are most definitely not standard in PvZ. Queens shut them down super hard. As does basically anti air a Zerg can make apart from Corruptors.

Even if it were just for clearing overlords, a phoenix is better. Only reason to make them in a PvZ is to defend Carriers from Corruptors really.

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And then you get banelized.The other day some dude tried that to me, I cancelled my speed upgrade that was around ) 90%, got the extra gas, destroyed his front door and amoved with slowlings and all he had was a pathetic voidray.

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Zerg is too good early game. Macro defensively, I recommend.

Stay on creep.

Bio sucks. Go widowmines and kite with cyclones. Get a raven asap to eliminate obs. This will force protoss to retreat and reevaluate their lives. You can thank me later.

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I send 4 adepts to the zerg third once I have secured my own third (with 2 oracles). They either take damage because they don’t have enough, or they make enough that it is worth it from a lack of drones perspective.