GSL Ro16 group B - balance discussion

Its unbeliable how strong protoss is in PvT and the first game of Bunny vs Parting just shows how incredibly powerful protoss is. It is also supported by FACTS and KNOWLEDGE (Aligulac PvT winrate is 54%). What do you guys think blizz should do to help Terran players? Right now, Terran players are struggling so much in TvP and most people agree they’re just not having fun in the matchup anymore. TheSilence has actually proposed to boycott the match up altogether. While I think such mesures are too extreme, just goes to show how much its unwindable for the terrans.

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Hmmm i think to balance TvP they could remove the ghost emp upgrade that would make it a bit more fair but other then that i think its fine.

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Yeah Protoss so incedibly strong as shown in 2:0 for Clem vs Trap

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And maybe Clem played better, i dont know and wont argue that. But it looked a bit sad , specially the second game. Trap making all that harass, and Clem just having all the time more supply.
Oh and the incredible power of disruptors:

https://youtu.be/j_J12gvIM64?t=1684

Another meltdown post from OP

You cry about 54% win rate in PVT at the highest level.

Yet you brag and think your 60% win rate in TVP is okay?

So which one is it kid? Make up your mind don’t flip flop kiddo

Fact is: Zerg and Protoss are in general more skilled than the Terran players

Low skill Terran “looks” competitive due to their stronger A move race

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Gtfo low skill troll

Terran needs massive nerfs

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The problem is the new shield battery overcharge buff. But I doubt Blizzard will change the shield battery overcharge buff because they claim it fixes PvsP. If Blizzard won’t change the shield battery overcharge buff, I think Blizzard should buff the shield damage done by widow mine, or add shield damage to another Terran unit. That would fix PvsT but not impact TvsZ.

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Protoss is strong when you clump your ENTIRE ARMY in the most flankable position of the entire map against 10 high templars with storm.

This was nothing short of matchfixing level performance by Innovation. He probably wanted a Zerg in RO8 and threw the games to face DRG instead of TY.

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Noob terran got PROTOSSED!

Cry more

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This.

Game 1 was just the worst engagement possible from Innovation…he clumped up every single tank and got flanked like a bronze player.

Game 2 was a pretty bad push that was defended perfectly.

yes please show us more examples of people playing kr to eu. dont bother mentioning the ridiculous latency issues.

(not that i think there is ANY problem with tvp, its the best its ever been, inno vs parting was sick)

my race lost,it is imbalance

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Bunny and innovation, incredibly skilled terran players vastly outplayed parting in every way imaginable but still lost because blink stalkers are pretty good… they srly need to nerf those, they are broken in hands of good (decent-ish) players. Especially innovation. Arguably the GOAT of all time losing to a one trick aggro player who can’t macro at all is a disgrace imho…

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The main issue with that suggestion is the shield bat ability affects the game in a small window (that being shield bats around a nexus). Your idea would effect a much wider window of the game (literally everywhere on the map). Thats not exactly fair…

Wait wait wait… you are complaining about Parting beating Bunny? The same Bunny that afk lost his first banshee while it just fired volleys uselessly on Darks third? Bunny isn’t fit to be in the same group as Parting.

Protoss A-move EZ RACE!!! most micro intensive unit in the game, which can only be used to full potential by a handful of players, OPPPP!!! You just can’t admit your precious terran players were outplayed by a vastly skilled toss. If he’s a one trick pony then your superior terran players should be prepared to turn that pony to glue, but they didn’t because they aren’t. Quit trying to take strategies away from a strategy game. SC2 would benefit from MORE build diversity not less. With every unit you nerf you, make the game more boring. Just another teary-eyed tantrum terran

h_ttps://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/ESL_Pro_Tour/2020/21/Masters/Summer/Statistics

If PvT is so protoss favored, explain every terran’s winrate vs toss in DH

That counter attack from Bunny on game 1, when Parting was with 3 army supply, Bunny 34. Bunny runs to Parting base with a doom drop. Tastosis are like: eh gg for parting (40 bunny supply vs 23 parting ). 33 army supply terran loses a 28 protoss army in a choke because of… battery overcharge???

Then the HT storm festival, is so stupid. This take no skill whatsoever. Compare parting blink stalker micro to Innovation evading disruptor balls … Man Parting doesn’t even have the pro game time of Innovation (Innovation is a 4 time GSL champion, played since WoL, all the pro league time). This is just bs. If Taeja won against Stats or Trap, would see a lot of protoss players crying here.

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Bunny is a low tier Terran at best. His performance was nothing short of an embarrassment. He’s NOT EVEN CLOSE to Parting’s level.

As for Innovation, he got ahead but he got MASSIVELY OUTPLAYED by Parting in the late game. You can’t win at Code S level by clumping your entire army and getting flanked by 10 full energy HTs with storm. That was the worse engagement I have seen this year yet in SC2. A little bit of micro, we’re talking like anything better than gold league micro, and he wins that engagement and probably the game, but he decided to sit there and eat 10 storms with ZERO MICRO, ZERO SPLITS and ZERO EFFORT to move out of storms at all.

Well deserved loss for Inno and kudos to Parting, the most skilled player in the group yesterday.

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