I dont die to proxy rax. I havent had issues with it for years. Its free mmr for me. Why? Because of Penelope the Paranoia drone.
Whose Penelope? I hear you asking… Penelope is a drone you send out at 19 supply to check the area around your base for proxies. This is right when youre throwing that third drone into the gas, very easy to remember. Just throw down a shift click and check your mini map. Most of the time I kill the scvs with drones before the raxs finish and its instant GG.
One tricky part: obviously theres 2 sides on most maps where a proxy could be. Your second overlord checks the near one and Penelope checks the far one.
You can thank me by lowering the mmr of proxy rax terrans everywhere and making them salty.
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Ty you truly are hero we need and deserve!
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Thats quite a good tip for many people.
Now we have Francisco the Funny Business Overlord, the second overlord who checks for cannon rushes and proxies, and Penelope the Paranoia drone, who checks around for conspiracies against your bases.
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Some one has PTSD Just like me. once I figure out my PvT I am going to post so many threads on how to beat them. I can’t wait. I’ll be saying good by toss all together
yesterday I played a proxy rax player,but he made 4 and I only saw him with my overlord scouting near the third, I won and next game was him again,decided to roach rush him since I never cheese, and also drone scouted and there it waw,the dude making two rax near my third,harased his scvs and he cancelled,returned my drone.While waiting for the roaches I was thinking if the dude tried another proxy on another location.The guy sent a scoutin worker a d as soon as he was up the ramp saw my group of roaches exitint my base and he left the game.Rewinded and I was rigbt,the dude cancelled his two rax only for making another 4 rax on another place.
So what do you do if it turns out they aren’t proxying? You’ve lost all that mining time from that one drone.
How do you react after you place down a hatchery? Pull drones?
The only time this works is if
- it exists
- you scout it early enough to put down a pool first
- they’ve already put down at least 2 rax
from my experience. if a zerg goes pool before hatch this usually stops the proxy if scouted. sacrificing a little mining time to get lings for defense. and you get a faster queen.
However, if it is a reaper rush getting roaches is the answer. reapers will kite early lings for forever and by the time speed is done reapers will have to many numbers by then. just don’t lose to many army supply before roaches come out…
It’s worth it in many cases, we’re even seeing some pro zergs do it at the moment.
Until terrans adapt and start sending their own extra worker.
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Given that the Terran base is normally a lot further from the proxy and even just seeing the proxy (as opposed to outright slowing it with the first drone) helps a lot, I think this adaptation would just hurt the Terran build. If your proxy rax is 70 minerals slower or whatever and still gets scouted, you’re not feeling great.
The only time this would matter is if the Terran was actually going triple command center. So even with the lost mining time if you scout that you can punish it. Either ling or roach flood. If a depot wall is made use a few banelings to break it then flood in with either lings or roaches. If they have reactored hellions (which is common with triple CC) go roach ravager.
The scout is worth it unless you are in top 16 GSL or above. Even then it’s probably a good idea to take the very small disadvantage and make it up later to avoid the proxy. Most Terrans will do it at least once. If people keep doing this it will fall out of the meta altogether.
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That’s because a lot of pros proxy in TvZ. It’s understandable in that case. I’m not a very big fan of all the other arguments everyone else is posting.
Thus is the infinite pattern of RTS meta-shifts.
Zerg sends worker at 19, terrans start sending extra working, zergs start sending 2 extra workers, terrans start sending 2 extra workers…
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The meta will devolve into nothing but worker pulls.
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Penelopes origins actually lie in my hatred for probe and pylon blocks. I started sending out penelope to my third base so when I saw a probe coming I could just switch to penelope and drop my nat at my third with zero delay in larvae time. Then I started finding proxies too.
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Uh no haha. The amount of time each of the defender’s workers lose on mining is much shorter than the amount the attacker loses. I already run into terrans who send more workers for like 4 rax or maybe they played me before. I just pull more drones. Just pull more than the terran and DONT FORGET LING SPEED or you’ll just die to hellions. Bane bust asap to end the game if you have to but 9/10 proxy terrans leave instantly when you cancel a rax.