There needs to be a huge balance patch. A huge huge nerf to zerg. And buffs to other races.
The zerg made 12 zerglings and won 2 games in a row… in professional games. Its been 3 years.
Why are you so scared to do anything major?
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I uninstalled the game yesterday :)) this is a crap state it’s in balance wise. Protoss needs 50% more epm in order to be able to take decent trades with A move bio and A move zerg. Also needs a ton more epm to harass properly early game and if you don’t do huge damage, zerg and terran endgame craps all over the protoss army with superior zoning and set-and-forget units. Protoss is a joke of a race relying on gimmicks to try and do enough damage to setback opponents so that we’re always ahead in eco to make up for the shtty expensive units we have
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Agree nerf Terran like “Meganerf” and slightly buff Toss and then wait and see
Im not but since month or 2 when i beat Terran and i saw that despite me making pressure all game and in the end he had 2 hidden base and natural in time when i just completed my 3 i dunno did he used muniral hack it was universal nope no more laddering till b patch and mine buff was like def not laddering
I still wait better days but to be honest this is darkest hour for toss players
Zerg is fine, no need to nerf them.What is underwhelming is protoss early defense.Terran can repair, bunker, and cheap units to make and some even have aoe damage like mines and tanks.Z can make units instead of drones.P just have the gate and have to wall with cyber that canbe sniped and at most will have a couple of units out and the only def is the battery,stalker is terrible against anything at that moment of the game, zealot must guard the door or will be surrounded, and adept will kill lings but has low hp and can be swarmed easily.
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Id like to see them revert some of the previous protoss nerfs, rather than see big nerfs to the other races. Protoss seems to be the only race that has strategies completely removed by blizzard, aside from winfestor brood lord. They’ve gutted pheonix adept, chargelot archon, all late game Skytoss, colossus is a shadow of what it used to be, immortal sentry isn’t as good, etc.
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No, it’s not Zerg that needs a nerf. It’s the fact that they’ve spent 2 years nerfing the crap out of Protoss. If you’re going to apply a nerf, do it to Terran as well. If you’re going to buff, buff Protoss
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What would you rebuff though?
If there’s one Protoss style I’m glad is in the dumpster of history, it’s this one.
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Yeah immortal sentry wasn’t great but it was a thing before ravagers existed. I’d start with reverting the observer nerf
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I’m not sure why the observer nerf was even done in the first place. Of all the things they changed, the chose the freaking observer?
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True. Zerg is OP. Probably explains why its all I play now.
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That’s why they added overcharge, but its not that great. Most tosses are using Nexus energy to coronoboost like we are supposed to. So when the roach ravanger all in hits toss usually doesn’t even have energy for it, until its too late. Even if you do, the zerg can just focus down the battery that’s overcharged.
ht tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3HZG4vYatQ&t=1013s at 55:57, since i can’t find a screenshot
to quote
“we feel the frustration of barely not catching Observers did not make up for the benefits of the speed increase”.
I vote for Colossus buff to worth being a real t3 unit, the bonus damage should be vs Biological, not Light. It would be worth building vs Zerg and vs Marauders. A more reliable (and still counterable) splash damage. I think Protoss need nothing more.
I lied, Tempest need a rework.
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Yeah, when you have ravagers overcharge shouldn’t be a problem, usually the battery is on an accesible spot and it can be sniped with a few biles or even the pylon powering it.The change was aimed at defending the proxy inmo, something you do at your nat, it wasn’t aimed at defending third or fourth bases,its bad against commited attacks to the third, but at least helps against drops and small runbys.
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All began with the MSC removal that at full energy was able to deal 2500-2700 damage firing an all 4 pylons.
It removed the unit from the game and gave some partial buffs here and there that due to terran (and latter zerg) whine were reverted.
On top of that Carrier/HT/Zealots were nerffed severely.
I guess, with those nerffs as a race is a miracle that Protoss is still at those pathetic levels that we see now.
Soon only to be represented at R0 32 would be a great achievement for the Race.
Shame!
Not as bad as you are embarrassing yourself with your pathetic crying.
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came back to sc2 during quarantine after not playing for about 5 years, just playing like 20 games a year or something with friends.
took me about 300 game with toss to get to masters
took me about 25 games with terran
this game is a joke and has been for a long time
developers don’t care about protoss game experience, they only care about T/Z game experience, which is why after years of dominating at the pro level, these races continue to get buffs. xd. if you cant get masters as Terran in the current patch, you probably can’t get diamond 2/1 with protoss in the current patch
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Its funny because Protoss is feeling in PvZ what Terran is feeling in TvP. I’m glad Protoss is getting screwed over somewhere, that op race really needs to be nerfed.
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please try playing pvz before saying these are equivalent
master with terran, masters with toss. i have been there with both races and they are NOT equivalents
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