Even Korean Pro's are saying Terran are Imbalanced and OP

Lol. I am? That’s VERY surprising news to me. Can you link a post where I am whining about terran needing buffs? We’ll wait.

In fact if you go back back in my post history to early last year, you will see me arguing in favor of protoss and that protoss doesn’t need nerfs. Because they were doing poorly in tournaments (before the last patch). The problem is the last set of patches, in true Bliz style, went too far. Protoss is now the OP monster.

Fact is I am one of the few people on this forum who truly favors actual balance instead of any one race. Feel free to apologize to me after reading my post history, troll. Or if you don’t apologize here in the forum, at least privately realize that your record of being 100% laughably wrong is still safe and unbroken.

Dude the point is YOU claim “Korean Pro’s are saying Terran are Imbalanced and OP”. It’s the topic of YOUR thread. And I am posting on topic letting you know the fact that the overwhelming majority of Korean pros actually consider protoss to be the most OP race. By a huge margin. And I showed you direct evidence. You brought up the subject, and now you are getting angry at me for being on topic.

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That video just strengthens the bias of Pro player who prefer their race. Terran players say Protoss are the strongest and Protoss players say Terran are the strongest.

If you agree that Protoss do not need to be nerfed then you are in fact agreeing that Terran is the race that needs the most nerfs. They have been overbuffed to the point that they are unbeatable at higher levels thanks to Widow Mines and EMP.

First - you misunderstood my post. I said 18 months ago I was against nerfing protoss. Now, 2 patches later, protoss appears to be very very strong. At least. Maybe more than that.

Second - no, agreeing that one race does not need nerfs is not the same thing as saying another race does need nerfs. For one thing, that doesn’t even make sense. For another, terran is behind both zerg and protoss in tournament stats. I think it is 100% completely unsupported by any objective statistic or result or poll that terran needs nerfs.

Third - The game is mostly end of lifed by Blizzard. I’m not so sure the current state of protoss will be sufficient for a patch. This may just be how the game is for a while. Enjoy your 50 APM race.

How did u end up with that stupid conclusion? So not only protoss don’t need nerf but terran needs. Firstly don’t try to find the pink elephant beneath with mules because mules drop is made to match exactly protoss economy yet protoss still on more bases.

The build and run probe design allows for workers to always be on gathering

Ofc u newb dont consider that building multiple structures can leave u 5 workers away from resource. That’s why mule exists.

In late game u can spam mule but that’s hardly like protoss doesn’t have that much, cases where Mule can decide game is if both have no workers but Terr has a base… some super rare case of BASE TRADE

Ur the troll.

PPP are always in their delusion. When literally every terran rages over tvp some 70 apmer who leaves half his army target wrong thing… tells terrans are the trolls

I will advocate only that in TvZ terrans are not weak sometimes Z can struggle but no terran isn’t op vs Z

Not to mention that this fool forgets that mules can only gather minerals, which hardly matter in a long game. Basically mules are (nearly) completely useless later on as all terran best units: ghots, BC, thors, libs, ravens require immense amount of gas. If mules could gather gas then the claim they are OP would be justified.

Rocmeu

Don’t call me a newb when you have absolutely no ranking WHATSOEVER.

NOOB.

Now to get down to the balance discussion again. Please show data on how spamming mule drops does NOT push a Terran economy past a Protoss one putting Terran on par with Zerg.

Also please provide data on how EMP does not completely invalidate a Protoss army since they buffed the impact area.

Go ahead…I’ll wait.

abs:

Are you just delusional? Mass stimmed Marines have the HIGHEST DPS in the entire game!!!

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Protoss troll goba helped me not have an acc with league to post here moderators are a f-in $ht they could have tamed him not provoke me but who cares some stupid forum. You are a low apm protoss lamer arrogant too. Get over your delusion, I’m a bit higher mmr and still know to control units unlike u. There’s a reason you are called you are worse than my protoss opponents.

You must be under a rock because I’ve been playing since wol and protoss has forever had the more bases than terran. See any stream or pro game in early harass time. Protoss harass and expand, terran defends on 2 bases while toss on 3

Only true idiots talk about mule. Do you hear harstem, rotti or trap to talk about mules??
I told u. get you reee probe to build everything while scvs are always busy to build, that’s why mule exists. Get out with this stupidity

New emp, I don’t mind if they reverted it, it is rock paper scissors either u emp or he storms and wins. No one plays to wait protoss because they are favored late game.

Not gonna take seriously the posts of low apm spammer

Rocmeu I wish I could ban you from my threads. Hopefully a mod will do that for me.

You offer no insight whatsoever, all you do is come on here and flame and troll. You claim you are higher mmr but have no account linked whatsoever. You have posted no replays showing anything and all you do is insult when you can clearly see the game is imbalanced against Protoss.

This replay is a perfect example of how OP Terran are. Granted this player was maphacking and it was painfully obvious but just look at how fast he hits 3-2 and just spams MMM with widow mines. My army stood absolutely no chance even with overcharge. He just keeps sending in MMM then throws in vikings and thanks to mule spam he has the resources to do so.

h ttps://drop.sc/replay/20115367

THE GAME IS IMBALANCED ECONOMY WISE!

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Factually wrong, please go on aligulac and notice how PvT is currently Protoss favoured. That is statistical proof that your diamond 3 perception of the game cannot contest.

Just spamming blatant lies yet again. Watch pro games and notice how Protoss is and should be (for any above 75 IQ player) 10-15 probes ahead of Terran for most of the game.

You are so far up your delusions you aren’t open to see the factual evidence you are presented and rather prefer to keep your head where the sun doesn’t shine and live in your little delusional world just to protect your immense ego.

Until you can explain me why aligulac is wrong about balance, there’s no point having a discussion with a troll or a troglodyte.

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Look I will respect that if you want me out of your threads, nvm that they dont ban just for disagreeing with your bias. Because being an annoying parasitic goba is the worst. The difference is im a player, the silver goba was not.

I play on eu and I have faced better opponents than you… I will not reveal that info here though. I used to have an account here too before the sad troll helped it ban. Oh I did post pieces of the games when I laddered on NA

You are terribly biased from your own losses and yes as some said because of ego, which show lacking basic things like not controlling how your army attacks and learning to evade mines. But I will leave you to it, that’s the insight, I’ll give. But when I’m out of your threads, dont expect better treatment in other threads, mhhaha

Their statements are generally jokes.
If they really feel it OP, they will blame Blizzard on a big tournament winner’s interview, as Seed did in 2016 GSL Season 1.

Almost nobody is qualified enough to have a valid opinion about the balance of this game. I don’t really understand how some many people think they know how to balance the game.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Goba strikes again…

Well these Terran players are just trolls. EMP + Anti armor missiles are the most imbalanced thing I have ever seen in a game.

Protoss are supposed to have spells and units to compensate for the fact that the other 2 races can outproduce them, you take away those counters with 1 ability and yet somehow you think Protoss is OP?

It’s like arguing with 1st graders…no logic whatsoever.

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Let’s play IODIS.

Game: https://sc2replaystats.com/replay/20115367

Protoss opener is pure garbage – no gas, double gate, 3 pylon before expand, seems to think inbase slow zealot pressure is a thing. It’s like he hasn’t heard of the Pla…Maxpax build.

He then turtles up with cannon/SB at his natural while going into…every tech path, all at once with a crappy 2base economy.

and I do mean EVERY tech path. Stargate? Check. Twilight? Check. Robo? Check. Let’s research +1 attack and zealot charge, but make mostly sentries/stalkers from our warpgates. You know what goes great with +1 ground attack? Voidrays. And you know what goes great with void rays? Double forge. Get an immortal because we can, now throw in a dark shrine for good measure.

And do you know what’s better than getting robo, twilight, stargate, dark shrine double forge on two-base? Going up to 2x Stargate, 2x Robo and robotics bay on two base :slight_smile:

Against all this the terran player is using the incredibly unfair strategy of–getting a 3rd so you can mine from when your natural is saturated.

Ruling for this game: The protoss sucks.

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All these hidden profiles, so typical for PPP …