You were not nerfed into oblivion as you assumed in the new patch. TvP is 24-45 so far at HSC XX.
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Yeah, all games a 3 bases all in with Immortals Archons, the only Protoss good units left to nerf.
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Protoss is looking too strong in tvp.
I don’t get it.
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Excuses are nice I guess.
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Too early to tell but historically, Terrans have the hardest time adapting to new metas.
On paper Terran has all the tools they need, they just need to figure out how to exploit that toolset properly.
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We still have no late game though
Although not really anything changed for terran in TvP since bio will pretty much always be a better choice and bio did not change aside from later game usability of liberators.
Charge was nerfed into the ground, Observer was nerfed, Raven IM and move speed was buffed, transition into mass ranged Libs is now easier.
That’s a lot of change…especially since charge was the entire reason Protoss could hold most 2 base all-ins from Terran.
Terran late game is just lots and lots of stupidly efficient mid game units+BCs and/or Thors.
You don’t get super T3 units outside of those because of the insane strength and massability of your mid game units.
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Then why are Terran not dominating? I really don’t get you guys… You seem to think that you understand Terran better than players like Cure or Innovation or Maru, when you really don’t. That’s just delusional. Protoss has strong units just like Terran.
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…because Terran have historically had a hard time adapting. It usually takes 3-6 months for them to adjust properly and even then, sometimes it takes longer.
Protoss HAD strong units like Terran. Now Protoss has Storm and the Immortal. Maybe Flux Void Rays after the patch. Everything else has been nerfed over and over again, to the point of being bad units. This is why Protoss need a fast 3rd. Because we have to throw so much crap into a decent Terran push to stop it, forget about good trades. Those don’t exist unless the Terran screws up.
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There are still warp prisms, there are still dts, speed zealots are looking very strong, collosus is very strong, blink is very strong, oracle is very strong, protoss has TONS of strong units. Maybe you’re problem is that you don’t get upgrades? I mean what is your main mmr?
When? What are you talking about?
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Warp Prisms I’ll give you. Those are good.
DTs are a gimmick that only works vs unprepared opponents.
Speed Zealots are TERRIBLE in TvP. Bio just evaporates them, no kiting needed. The only thing they can do now is runbys.
Blink is attached to one of the worst units in the game. It takes the Stalker and makes it a tolerable to use unit. It’s not strong outside of allins.
I get double forge, sometimes triple forge. Upgrades aint my problem nor is my win rate in PvT. It’s one of my best MUs currently and it’s entirely because Terrans are doing dumb, stubborn crap.
Like going bio mine vs fast charge and a fast 3rd. No, you get Hellbats, watch out for Stargate play and then transition. Bio mine does not hold fast charge, especially if you allin and get routed before you’re at the Protoss base.
Point being, there are smart Terrans out there and I’ve seen a few of them but the vast majority do dumb things that throw games (in TvP). Pros included.
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Historicly the agressors have always been dominant at start of new patches and that is usually terran, however now were yet seeing new builds and agressive options that the other races needs to learn to defend wich could be concerning especially since early-mid game tvp was heavily protoss favored.
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No, its more terran has only 3-4 builds where most of them are not general builds.
I sure love me some hellbats at top level pvt, we can truly see how strong they are vs the zealots thats been troubling the matchup past year… oh wait.
You know terran better than pro terran players, gotcha.
See, the fact that instead of testing out Hellbats vs Chargelots, you feel the need to get salty is exactly what I meant.
Instead of adapting and trying out new stuff, you’d rather whinge. Just like SPECIAL whinging about Observers.
To take a page out of Neuro’s book, dude, no, adapt and just do better in the future. No more whinging. 
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Want to play my Protoss with your Terran? I’ll tell you I’m going for chargelots and even with 300 MS I’ll still crush you.
They do work wich is where youre correct, however in actualy games they are terrible and do not work unless the protoss does not know how to deal with it.
Using strategies that rely on your opponent being bad more than your own skill is not a good way at playing the game if you want to improve.
Turtle mech into mass bc probably works on many levels but its not a good strategy when your opponent knows how to deal with it.
Ok i just saw your highest finish is plat with 11k games played, now it makes more sense.
Shouldn’t need to be said, but the toss lineup for HSC was stacked and the Terrans are mostly foreigners. Talking about winrates at HSC is the same logic Toss and Zerg use when looking at ladder win rates and ignoring distributions.