Do thors have counters?

Playing as zerg and toss, cant beat them as either.
Tried immortals, tempests, zealots, stalkers. An army of thors 2shots an army of tempests before the tempests can get 2 thors down. Immortals just get melted no joke. Stalkers get splashed to death as well. Tried the combination of zealots, tempests, immortals, stalkers and archons. Still wiped miserably to thor+hellbats before I could even get half his thors down at 200 supply army.

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ya that’s been the question on many peoples minds, you know what blizz does? nerf zerg more :stuck_out_tongue: not even looking at the thor.

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Meanwhile Thor has become like Thor from Marvell.

As Zerg, i beat mass thor with ling/roach/ravagers. 7 bile oneshot a thor, you try some hit and run fight with them (you back when there are no more zerglings, you reprod them and rengage and zone them with biles), go for double upgrades (+attack and + melee).
You can also mass lurkers (but you need range/fast burrow and a lot of them, sometimes you don’t have the time to tech hive).
Adding infestors is not bad for fungal (slow them to make hit by bile/lurkers spikes), and neural.

Protoss, i think disruptors are the best and you didn’t mention them:
thors have 400 hp, disruptors do 145HP/Shot so you need 3 disruptors shots to kill them, they outrange thors, and thors are slow. 1 shot of disruptors also 1 shot hellbats. Try of course to hit multiple units at once.

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Disruptor ain’t a bad idea. Ty for advice I’ll try it

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If only thor, lings. If thor hellbat, ling + neural parasite

the thor is very slow. your best strategy is to use a lot of fast units. it will get outmatched quite easily by those.

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25 Zealots 6 disruptors 11 immortals voids tempest carrier all your just give a command

As zerg get swarnhost as Protos get Archon Disruptors Imortals

Immortals, flanking zealots, and Void Rays, especially spread out, will wreck mech. Don’t bother with any other Protoss air because Thors are amazing against the rest but not great vs void rays. The Thors will shoot at the voids though and the Immortals and zealots can get in and annihilate them. Don’t send the zealots into the hellbats though, either flank with them or just prism the zealots straight to Terran’s main during the fight

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If you play Protoss, just build Immortals.

Thors lose to: Immortals, Zealots, Zerglings, Hydras, Lurkers, Void Rays.

I believe I stated that I’ve tried immortals

So you have tried the ultimate hard-counter to Terran mech and still lost? Than the problem my friend, is you.

Thors deal splash damage with bonus vs armored (like apparently every unit in the game has anti-armor). Immortals are armored. 10 thors attacking at once splashing your immortals melts them in seconds regardless of their health. Thors deal what, 40 damage per hit? 10 thors = 400 dmg per hit, attacking in an area. Tell me how immortals are supposed to survive that.

Go to the unit tester and figure it out. Immortals are epically good against armour units. Add some chargelots and you will win everytime.

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As Protoss, Disruptors are the answer to Thor-based compositions. Other things can beat them too but not effectively because it’s not going to be pure Thor, they’ll be other stuff too.

Zerg honestly is just screwed vs Thor compositions until you get a bunch of Vipers out or do a Roach Ravager allin, praying they didnt get 6 tanks with their Thor Hellbat Liberator spam.

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Correction on the Void Rays: They work until the Thors reach massive numbers. If Thors are in massive numbers, either Javelin Missiles (because Void Rays naturally stack much faster and closer than other air units, a side effect of their attack) or the Thor’s Punisher Cannons will take out enough Void Rays before they get into range that the Void Rays will lose.

Protoss ground options against Thors are more reliable, assuming you get successfully hit with Disruptors and do not waste Immortal shots on Hellbats.

Hellbats themselves really require a source of splash or consistent kiting (without suffering damage from Tanks, Thors, or Liberators) to deal with. You should probably think of Hellbats as slower, more durable, and more support-dependent Marines in that respect.

I can definitely tell you’ve never actually tried Lings, Hydras, or Lurkers against Mass Thor.

Kill them before they can make thors.

No. No they do not. Their ground attack is single target.

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I can definitely tell you’ve never actually tried Lings, Hydras, or Lurkers against Mass Thor.
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I know this was directed at someone else but he’s right. And I say that from experience on both sides.

Thors might get through the first wave, but they won’t survive with enough left to make it through the second wave, assuming your 2nd wave is big enough. If it isn’t, then it’s a problem with macro, mate. Nothing more.

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