#DesignTeamLogic

That has nothing to do with your accomplishments nor mine. That is about the facts. Terran is factually favored at the pro level. Being advantaged does make it easier to win. Newbs prefer to play terran. There are like 10k more players who play terran. It’s the most played race especially for newbs. That just doesn’t happen if the race is the hardest race to play. Newbs don’t start games out on the final boss level.

It is a fact that terran is the easiest race to play, both for newbs and for pro players.

A three year old tweet from a single pro player about a different video game does not apply to “all” pro players and does not apply to this game. Saying that it does IS a factless theory comperable to flat earth.

Can a single queen teleport across the map and kill a terran player who is turtling on 2 bases, and can it do this despite the terran having invested twice the resources in defense that the zerg invested into that queen?

The answer is an overwhelming NO.

Currently true.

“Terran has lower MMR because it’s easy.” Again, likely the stupidest justification for anything I’ve ever heard. Take the crayon out of your nose.

You literally couldn’t find a single pro of any race to disagree with you, then you lied about it.

Wrong. The best that a zerg can hope for is to deflect the BC while coming out equal in economy and lightyears behind in tech (terran has his ultimate tech, zerg still stuck on tier 1).

The reality is that hellions can get in and 20 or 40 drones go up in smoke. Or the terran hits with hellbats at the same timings and he just outright wins. The list of ways it can go wrong is a mile long for zerg. The only way it goes wrong for terran is if he afks and forgets to teleport his bc. Even if he loses the bc, he is still ahead in tech and equal in eco.

Terrans don’t have lower mmr because it’s easier. Players have lower mmr because they are bad and they pick terran because it’s easier.

It is the only explanation given the fact that players don’t race switch. If terran were a harder race, newbs would stop playing it. They would switch to zerg and protoss. That’s not what happens. Terran is the most played race especially at lower levels.

That’s a an outright lie, bourne. You were shown dozens of quotes ranging from PartinG to TLO to David Kim himself.

Not only is terran favored at the pro level, the most played race at the casual level, and the best matchup for alphastar, but now it has the absolute lowest micro units ever to exist in the game. Despite all this evidence, you say terran is the hardest to play because of a single 3 year old tweet about a different video game? You’re crazy.

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With a nydus yes, your macro mechanic can be loaded up and destroy units. When we fix that, we can consider a nerf to the BC. Until then, enjoy my BCs in your mineral lines, may their kill counts be high and your queen counts low.

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BC: Is slow, tanky and can Tactical Jump across the map.

Queen: Is slow, tanky, can Tactical Nydus across the map.

One is massive T3 unit with huge investment needed, other T1 mineral only unit AND macro mechanic.

Show me a single game from the IEM or WESG qualifiers where a nydus queen allin was used. I’ll wait.

Also, about Lib range nerf. Done. It was nerfed last path. I await queen nerf now.

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Make a claim, back it up with some form of evidence.

No, it’s really not. Even Shaz, as whiny as he is, said as much.

I am still waiting on a link to youtube or twitch that shows nydus queen being used in WESG or IEM qualifiers with even a hundredth as much frequency or potency as the BC opener.

Theory A: has an overwhelming amount of evidence.

Theory B: has a single 3 year old tweet containing an opinion, from a different video game, that was hand selected because it was the one tweet that didn’t contradict theory B.

Bourne: these two theories are the same.

Batz: are you mental?!

Also bourne: you are being unfair and biased, batz!

Please show the “overwhelming amount of evidence” that Terran players are “all just worse”

Do you lack the ability to read?

Your hypothesis relies on a few false assumptions:

  1. That new players have even the slightest inkling of which race is the most difficult.

  2. That you can predict the individual responses of 85,000 people to the information they don’t have.

  3. That people who actually understand the game, which races are best and strongest, would all sporadically choose to earn less money, win less awards, and generally have overall worse quality of life, all meanwhile telling the players of the easy race, that their accolades are worth more, for some misguided sense of honor?

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Newbs can tell when they picked the wrong level on Mario because they keep insta dying since the level is harder. Sc2 is the same. If terran were harder then newbs would notice because they keep getting wrecked on the ladder if they pick terran.

If you can’t agree on something as obvious as that, then you are extremely biased. That is, if your theory is based on fact denial, then you are biased. Claiming terran is so hard that it nukes players ranks, and then doing a 180 and claiming there is no possible way they could know terran is harder, is a fact denial stance.

I didn’t read the rest of your post.

So, literally the only evidence you’re showing that “all Terran players are just worse” is that they have lower MMR?

Lying isn’t an argument, bourne. I’ve detailed three main points each with a mountain of evidence to support each.

  1. Alpha star’s best non-mirror matchup was TvZ and it’s worst was ZvT when it played on the ladder. It’s literally right in DEEPMIND’s paper.
  2. At the pro level, the hardest matchup is ZvT and TvZ is the easiest -an almost perfect mirror to the alphastar findings. This is clear based on Elo and Glicko rankings generated from all pro games played.
  3. Terran is the most played race, especially for low skill players, which is a fact evident in ladder statistics.

Terran is definitely the easiest race to play.

And alpha star has PERFECT mechanics… And Terran is hardest… mechanically!!!

And that’s not what we’re talking about, try and keep up, Rain man (What were you crying about, even WHEN aligulac told you in no uncertain terms that Zerg had a 55% win rate, oh that Terran won 6x times as much).

You’re smarter than this, not much, but u are.