Quick question.
Are those Dehaka’s prestige any good or clearly superior than P0 Dehaka in most situations?
Asking this because my ally (main Dehaka) is unsure whether he should level Dehaka’s prestige.
Quick question.
Are those Dehaka’s prestige any good or clearly superior than P0 Dehaka in most situations?
Asking this because my ally (main Dehaka) is unsure whether he should level Dehaka’s prestige.
Yes, all of his prestige are an upgrade of P0, just in different ways.
P2 is the highest power boost.
Here is my thought.
P1 Devouring One - Most powerful at best = Dehaka becomes the greatest army buffer/healer in the Co-op.
P2 Primal Contender - Most safest, stablest and easiest to use.
P3 Broodbrother - Needs some work for this one but still it is the “Most Fun”. It is a blast to control 2 Dehakazillas in the field!
Not sure if I understand question correctly. Do you think that if prestige is superior to P0 it is not good?
P1 on Dead of Night, when Dehaka devour an air unit while surrounded with friendly flame throwers, make you feel like you’re finally playing the map as it should _
P2 and P3 add a complexity that don’t make them objectively better, they are a different playstyle that can feel better, but that’s up to your ability to master them, and how enjoyable the way they play is for you.
I felt like I played the map as it should when going for bombers and airforce as H&H. Why send people down there to die in masses? Let the fleet handle it.
P3 is so ridiculously strong if you can multitask or have experience in warcraft 3
You do need high apm though
When you get fire breath for both of them they become wave nukers
“P2 and P3 add a complexity that don’t make them objectively better”
Are you drugged ? the p3 literally gives you a free extra dahaka with absolute no downside … even if you are not using it , you can use it only for clear the exp faster . Its a direct upgrade from p0 .
One downside is that they do not share the essence, so overall they level slower.
But yeah, after starting the game you can opt to leave one at base to camp.
I have mine as separate control groups and it’s generally amazing to play imo.
P3 Broodbrother is a straight upgrade from P0 at this point. Even if you don’t want to use Zweihaka, just trap him between a corner and a building and ignore him (maybe because you dont want shared essence or so). You always have the choice to go Broodbrother or not, as there is no downside involved. I doubt the prestige will stay the way it is, so take this with a grain of salt.
P1 changes Dehaka into a support unit. The effect is strong if you know what to eat, but it’s really a drastic change. Not for people who like the godzilla theme, I would say.
P2 adds effectively more power to the field, but there are still maps and scenarios where P0 can be superior - simply because being able to split your forces is more valuable (Dehaka in one place, his army in another, three calldowns to intercept what’s left). An example of such a map is Mists Opportunities, where enemy waves attack you from all sides at almost the same time.
I think P1 is the strongest. It moves away from classic Godzilla-Dehaka, but giving strong and frequent buffs to your entire army and occasionally your ally’s army is going to far outstrip anything full-powered Dehaka was going to do. This isn’t strictly better of course since it requires all or most of your units to be bunched up but I thought this prestige was the easiest to use and most consistently powerful.
I did not care for P2. I found that the buff was largely redundant as the pack leaders already have base/wave clearing power. The amount of situations where they need to be even stronger is less than the amount of times that I wanted a pack leader in two places at once.
P3 is super fun but it’s definitely a “I can tell my APM isn’t high enough to use this properly” thing. According to ladder games, my APM is around 90, so if your friend has ~110 (or more) he might be able to get a lot of mileage out of this. It’s worth leveling to because it’s awesome, but P1 is the more practical, mutator-friendly prestige IMO.
All three Dehaka prestiges are fun in their own way though. If he mains Dehaka, he should definitely get them. Dehaka is a breeze to level too, unlike some other commanders.
They missed a golden opportunity with Zweihaka
Color De red and Zwei blue
One haka
Two haka
Red haka
Blue haka
It writes itself.
P1 has the highest ceiling (big buffs to both armies on a short CD, which you can make even shorter) but a high floor as well since Dehaka himself becomes considerably weaker.
P2 is my personal favorite - the “downside” of Dehaka leaving the map while his super-summons are out can actually be an advantage, as they all become emergency buttons to save Dehaka himself if he’s low on health. His regen and cooldowns continue ticking while he’s untargetable too.
P3 is a straight upgrade at this point since they removed the downside. If micro is annoying you can simply wait to level Zwei, which is easy to do with all the essence the waves drop. I expect this one will get a nerf eventually, not because it’s OP but simply because there is no real tradeoff.