Current 30 game PvT losing streak

Yep current losing streak to P and my last game down on eco 10k resources. good job blizzard.

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Nah, you are dropping games intentionally in order to play with weaker opponents. This is the very definition of a smurf.
No way somebody can lose 30 games in a row…
Unless Maru has hacked your account, upgraded it to 7000MMR and now you are playing against Stats, sOS, Parting, Zest, Showtime and Neeb.
Tell us the truth.
The truth will make you free.

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I was trying some things the forum told me now I am back on that amazing losing streak to toss. I was just reviewing some games beyond the opening. such as end of games stats. Most of my PvT I am down 5k to 10k minerals at the end of the game.

Ironically at the end of the games P always seems to have just enough… So in other words I am simply being out macroed every single game.

So to make up this difference. I am skipping out on things such as torrets and will accept the occasional dt lost. tried to go for a fast 3rd by the 5 min mark at the latest whether I can defend it or not in hopes to try to keep up economy wise.

These changes has caused a 30 game losing streak in my PvT. I could go back to my normal play but I wont If I cant keep up economy wise then I’ll never advanced any way. I have to find something consistent.

I just think its funny in my TvT and in my TvZ at the end of my games I have equal or more resources. However, that PvT match up

I guess those mules were supposed to make up 5k to 10k in resources :man_shrugging:t5:

Hahahahahahaha maybe its whine karma

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Protoss is ahead economically by default since Terran:

  1. Have to spend lots of worker time on constructing buildings instead of collecting resources.

  2. Can not chrono boost probes,

  3. Can not build workers while an Orbital Command is constructing.

  4. Can not compensate by dropping mules since since some of that energy needs to be spent on scans.

If you play very greedy in order to catch up to Protoss you will lose to aggressive builds.

The only solution is worker harass. You need to kill 6-10 workers early game in order to catch up. If you do not Protoss hits mid game with a stronger economy and a larger army.

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but but but people say mules. I’ll figure something out. Ill just play like maru…
just hope I don’t run into any of those gate way units like the stalkers.

Yeah you suck at the game :slight_smile: I’m litteraly 70% ever since 2016 as Terran vs Toss as an offrace, oh and btw I achieved the same MMR as my Protoss even though I have no builds but yeah terran is hard xdxd protoss OP omagad I’m playing pure bio I lose to storm :ā€˜( :’( :ā€˜( :’( imagine building ghosts, imagine protoss don’t ever go storm cus they themselves know it sucks

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Always fun to see. PvZ is a far far worse matchup than TvP, yet we dont see 100 threads about PvZ in a week.

If you suck at this game with bio + bw tank + new thor/bc/ghost + ure totally balanced mules i think it’s safe to say this game ain’t for you no offense but i think u need to uninstall.

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If you are terran the second best thing you can fight are stalkers, being the first thing the tempests.It’s really easy, build some tanks and no protoss player will damage you without paying the price. Stalkers require a good macro and excellent micro, something you won’t find easily on ladder, and not at your level, you will find some protoss trying to play with blink while they lose some stalkers and while the resources go up because they don’t macro while they are babysitting the stalkers, and if they macro they don’t move the stalkers, which is also bad.

Don’t play mech, we said it is bad and probably harder to win with it.Play bio, bio trades equally against protoss, with mech you just sit and if you take bad fights you lose a lot, and protoss can take the map.

We are used to play on that situation and still receiving BM in game, like this one, fresh from a moments ago.

https://imgur.com/a/iWU0Gw7

The dude got a bit lucky I didn’t micro properly a couple of door zealots and didn’t make them hold position and swarmed my main and nat, with slowlings while attacking my third. His army composition was mainly roach ravager, then some hidras and around 7-8 banelings and roaches/some ravager.He had 0 upgrades for his main army, all he did was killing around 35 probes on the first unby that left me with 42 at the end, and then he did another more which killed me around 12 probes.My mining propes were never below 40, so he did eco damage but not enough to leave me without any chance.As soon I attacked he lost a couple of fights and lost, and still whined.Said him he was just killing probes while losing army, and the dude said he only lost 20 lings, said him just roach ravager/roah hidra against my comp is not very good and he said Z has no good comp.He didn’t micro a single time btw, just walked into the third and started fighting.

For sure Protoss is the race that gets the highest amount of whinning in game.I can play BS strats with T and nothing happens, play a conservative style, no cheesing and just macro and receive insane amounts of BM, and BM from terran even when losing.

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Just mass vikings dude. Literally unbeatable.

I finally got one. I finally ended the streak. Went back to my ā€œnormalā€ build of massing thors hell bats. noticed that they were going air… lmao. glad I didn’t see I.A.C. even happier they was going carrier tempest.

So decided to not build hellbats and build mines and marines to support my thors instead… and some ravens why not. need to stop those carriers form shooting.

but the funny thing was as soon as him army was destroyed as it should have been. they use the rest of their resources on Zs. and I get it. Zeal is the ultimate min dump unit and kills mech with ease so I just got hellbats. now that air was gone. and the rest is history.

Should have saved those mins to remax on air. but its only 2nd nature for a P player to get Zs. They always bail them out… but not this time.

On another note the total score was almost equal. but they some how still managed to have 5k more resources than me. and I was mine dropping them all game. Those 5k mins was used on Zs t fight hell bats. but what if I went bio. I probably would have lost this game. just looking back how it played out in hindsight.

I don’t think you’re on a 30 game losing streak, and I don’t think the games are due to balance with the amount of supply blocks, but we can let others judge that.

http:/ /sc2replaystats.com/player/151318
http:/ /sc2replaystats.com/replay/14231416 (this game you won)

You may or may not have a point, but I think they contributed very little to your losses.

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Those are old replays. I haven’t up loaded anything since the losing streak. and its a 30 game losing streak to toss not overall.

Yes, I’m aware that your claimed 30 game losing streak is tvp only which is why I linked one that you didn’t, and I am a bit skeptical that out of the ~150 ranked you played, most of them happened recently and also contained a 30 tvp game losing streak, but maybe that is the case.

Regardless, i think looking at your losses in these ā€œolderā€ games for PvT would provide a good insight to why you are losing that are not balance related.

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The last game that I lost before I finally won one The guy just stayed at my 3rd and kept warping in Zs. while they were on 3 bases to my 2. Before they did that of course they warped in like 20 Zs in my main. and I had to fight off a warp in of DTS
Yes I was able to hold that off. but I had to fight tooth and nail for my natural while they went up to 4 an then 5 bases.

I almost made this amazing come back because I just mine dropped all of their bases and stopped them from being able to mine for a while…

Wonder why P didn’t have any defense at any of their bases but that’s normal. in PvT why build D when you can just attack and deny 3rd.

But at the end of the game They had just enough resources. Because of mineral lead to just win the game.

So the protoss spent 2k in zealots, plus zealots on the third, plus dt and still had money to double expand even after taking a third?, that’s not how toss economy works.A simple 2 base 7 gate leaves you dry, there is no way to warp a ton of zealots and magically having the resources to happily expand around the map while also warping DT and I guess the robo tech too.I won’t believe it until I see the replay.

I can show you the replay and then you will say you didn’t do that right you didn’t do that right and also you didn’t do that right. I will personally watch that replay agsain seeing how they were able to pull that off. but yeah they did it.

After watching the replay. Just paying attention to my opener and up to the 10 min mark where I think the game was lost.

I got my natural down before them yet they still were able to get theirs saturated before me. I continued scv building. but by the time the attack came they were getting their 3rd and I was forced to cancel mines.

we had about the same amount of supply. I had mines marines and tanks. more mines than anything.

they had immortal Zs 2/3rds of that I.A.C army that all toss should start with in
There army was able to out power my army.

Something about this match up is just off. They were able to simply over power mines and since they didn’t have to build Defense they were able to use their extra mins to warp in re-inforcements.

And that’s where the match up feels broken.