Co-op Mission Nova Bug

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I didn’t know how to express it more accurately, so I used Chinese
诺娃在切换成狙击模式的时候,无敌对绿色hybird的技能无效
同样的BUG也出现在Tychus上,当他进入医疗运输机的时候也不能躲避该技能

This is what he is trying to say:

Nova’s unhostile green hibird skills are invalid when switching to sniper mode
The same BUG is on the Tychus, too, when he gets into the medical transporter.cannot evade the skill

That annoying bug. The developers hasn’t updated yet.

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This was a revert they did. I couldn’t get my phone to remove that stupid space because it is obviously too much to ask that we can use links on this forum.

Anyway, if I am understanding the issue correctly. The psionic blast hybrid dominator does used to “show blast animation, reach target, deal damage”, and as such damage can be dodged by evading the animation blast.

However, for whatever reason unknown to anyone really, the developers decided this is a no no (because why reward proper micro to avoid damage, that’s just crazy. Or perhaps an unintended change due to other fixes). Either way, now the damage is dealt before the blast reaches the unit (it is instant). So the Medivac pick up or mode switch no longer dodge this damage.

For Nova, the only way to safely engage one while in stealth mode is to gain defensive matrix via the drone prior to engagement or switch mode and gain shield via teleport. Otherwise, hybrid dominator will blast and one shot stealth mode Nova every chance it gets.

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Ah that’s why
I tried this with Kerrigan and Dehaka, they get hit anyways.

This is only partially correct. Nova, her units, and Tychus and his squad, all leave an invisible usually invulnerable hitbox before they actually are warped elsewhere. That hitbox is what the blast hits and still causes damage. The units are still “in play” even though you can’t control them.

Doesn’t change the fact this behaviour was altered, regardless of the exact mechanism in editor. This is what OP is trying to find out.

Somewhere along one of the last few patches, this occurred and frankly is not a change for the better.

What you described makes more sense viewed through the editor. I was just describing what I’ve observed in game. Thanks for adding in the clarification though.

I did mention it in my last bug hunt.
https://www.maguro.one/2020/04/bug-hunt-10.html#PlasmaBlast

It has more to do with the effect ignoring invulnerable tag than what others said here. There are various possible fixes.

You could simple make it to not deal damage to invulnerable units. However, I would prefer if you could dodge the ability with micro as well - in that case it would target a location instead of a unit.

Edit: It has been ingame for a long time

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Speaking of Tychus, did they fixed that bug where Outlaw numbers become limited each time when enemy Dehaka (HotS) drags one of them?

Wait, really? I know I feel you jump into a nydus while the hybrid is charging up it will cancel it, so you could theoretically kill the hybrid without it ever casting the spell. I thought you can also jump into the worm while the projectile is flying to dodge the shot

From my games, when this happens I took damage but if it’s charging you can cancel it ish.

I believe jumping into the worm removes the unit from the field, meaning you can dodge the blast. However, when Nova changes into sniper mode and become invulnerable, or when guardian shell makes a unit invulnerable, or anything else that just makes the unit invulnerable, Hybrid Dominators will ignore that invulnerability.

If you EMP the bastard, the ability use stops immediately, even if in the middle of a cast. You need ghosts for that, though.

yes that’s right you can cancel it but unfortunately its cooldown will remain full regardless.
Even if you manage to stop Dominator charging the attack, it will immediately attempt to use the Plasma Blast again.

I thought when I avoid the Dominator, I thought it was going to reset the 10 second cooldown and take down -25 Energy cost.
But no, you are only delaying the inevitable not avoiding it.

PS. Although if you have the time just right, you can avoid getting hit with worm as soon as when the Plasma Blast is fired but this evasion tactic is nigh impossible (You may get distracted by other foes/projectiles/your forces etc)

Sorry WireBender, something strange happened. I replied to Rhyme but the post is showing me that I quoted Warbird (corrected btw).

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Yes but if you use the EMP method it will cancel the attack because it no longer has the energy to cast it, and that won’t change unless you give it time to recharge that energy.

You can’t dodge the attack, but you can cancel it during charge up. E.g. entering an omega nydus with kerrigan. Of course the hybrid will immediatly start charging his attack again when kerri exits the worm… but you can just do a leaping strike and hop back in the nydus and repeat. Another side effect of this is that the hybrid dominator won’t be attacking much during this, but instead keep charging his attack again and again instead.

That obviously doesn’t work for nova… but you can always cancel its charge up once using griffin airship lift. Obviously defense drones are better, but also require quite fast response and flawless micro to pull off.

Feedback works great too. I wonder though, how much energy the psionic blast and storm ability of hybrids costs… sometimes i feel like the storm ability seems to have really low cost… sometimes they can cast storm shortly after being feedbacked.