Clem vs Serral - balance discussion

I know this is gonna be hard to grasp for zerg fanboys, but Clem honestly completely outplayed serral. Clem played some of the best starcraft2 of all time and overcame a pretty huge balance gap between zerg and terran currently.

Serral isnt as good as he used to be, the victory was well deserved for terran.

GG

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The washed up Serral meme is becoming a reality.

Serral plays Zerg on hard mode (LMB) when every other Zerg is using Viper lurker for ease of use. I think Solar has had the best ZvT so far in this tournament. Too bad he got Nuked from orbit.

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It’s a well deserved victory for Clem, that’s for sure.

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Hehehe serral lost ? Hehehehe. Too Bad i couldnt watch. But i will watch it as soon as i can.

Come with Shia and learn the difficult art of terran balance whining even when your race is dominating yet another tournament.

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No single race is dominating IEM Katowice. The final 8 players are 3 Terran 3 Zerg and 2 Protoss.

The days of 5/8 of the spots being Zerg, that’s racial domination. We haven’t seen that since 2019.

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Protoss at GSL super tournament KEKW

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Apparently you didn’t see Serral completely steamroll innovation, TIME, Special, and Bunny. If you think Clem has better TvZ than all three of these combined, especially Innovation, I’d say you’re crazy. Foreign terrans have been historically much weaker than Koreans and Clem was a garden variety foreign terran.

They’ve successfully nerfed Zerg to where even the GOAT can’t win anymore. Lmao. RIP sc2. Oh well there are plenty of good games out there that don’t involve wanton balance bias from the design team.

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Solar had far tougher opponents in TY, Maru, Clem and Byun. Special is an old man, TIME throws won games by not dropping the far reaching expansions of Zerg. Inno historically is on the other 4s level yeah, but he’s not been exactly the peak of terran lately.

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I don’t consider Ty, Clem or Byun to be near Innovation or Maru. I’ve seen Innovation completely wreck each of them so freaking hard in TvT it is burned into my brain.

Watching Byun lose 30+ marines to kill some rocks gives me PTSD to this day.

https://liquipedia.net/starcraft2/2017_GSL_vs._the_World

^ Right there and here:

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Serral is the same, Zerg got nerfed (creep, queen, baneling, infestor, broodlord). He is the only foreign to win the global finals, have some respect you envious kids.

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Personally I don’t like the design of the matchup. Zerg trades poorly 10K resources just to stay even routinely in high level games.

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Terran players got too use to tankivac… pushing there was fine if your tanks were zoning against what Inno did with his own marines.

Inno would be landing tanks on the high-ground and kill 60 marines instead of 30.

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Clem did nothing special that series. The creep and baneling nerfs have given Terran an insanely easy time in the match up. No need to multitask with drops or do anything. Just deny creep and win.

Blizzard specifically targeted Serral with nerfs and people act like he somehow got worse lol.

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Seriously? some people can“t get a discussion cuz: My Race Representative Pro was eliminated?

Just look the Serral face he was so worried since the first two games, Clem was so persistent and constant, and gave him no chance to climb tech tree to Ultralisks or Brood Lords, in addition to Romanticide and Gold Pillars are maps to favor the Zerg game and Serral did pretty well Specially in Romanticide when he just DENY the Widow Mine Gameplay.

Clem was more focused and precise, his Marine split donĀ“t ask for anything to the Koreans, Clem played like the greats and they know it …

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Well deserved victory indeed, Clem is definitely one of the top terrans in the world now, I’ve been watching his games thru out the year and he has amazed me several times, I’m rooting for him to go all the way to the final.

The thing is Clem IS better than all of those players, yes even innovation. You don’t know anything about Starcraft if you can’t see why he is better than those players.

Also Zerg is doing just fine, Rogue, Dark and Reynor are all in the Ro8, stop whinning.

Has he won a hoard of tournaments against the world’s best opponents during multiple versions of the game? Oh wait he’s got no tournament wins except small cups and he only does well when Zerg is utter trash.

Innovation on the other hand has been winning the hardest tournaments on Earth for almost a decade and he still won tournaments when other races were strong. He beat Serral at WESG long before the brood/queen nerfs and thor buffs etc.

I’m sorry to say it but clem is looking like YAPT (Yet another patch terran) like byun. He wasn’t able to win a SINGLE big tournament until recently but he is now able to bop the GOAT of sc2? Give me a break.

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