The level of outrage on the forums if protoss could rush carriers off 2 base? What if they could go double sg tempest to hit their opponent at 6 minutes? What if zerg was rushing broodlords off 2 base in over 50% of their professional games?
Now imagine if terran could go 2 port bc off 2 base in the highest levels of professional play. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/683369388?t=1h59m28s https://www.twitch.tv/videos/682356569?t=0h57m11s
2 BC killed 1 drone, 1 overlord and cancelled the 4th base on the initial teleport
Cost for Z : 225 minerals
Then Z is ahead and ultimatly lose a standard muta ling bane vs bio game
And it was vs Innovation, possibly the best Terran atm
Reynor lose 17 drones to hellions very early
The first 2 BC do 0 kills
No kill with 4 BC until 11:30 (corruptors with Yamato)
The game is kinda close/T favored during 12mn because of the hellions BBQ and then Reynor won
Whatâs your point ? Your 2 links are just showing double BC is doing pretty much nothing in both cases
Reynor even managed to deal with double BC with queen only while doing muta with his spire instead of corruptors
In the first clips he pretty much forced a mass queen response which is pretty good since it keeps the zerg from producing offensive units.
The second game again scouted right on point and then the corruptor response but then again corruptors donât do anything against helion runbyes. Which gained huge value.
You forgot:
Forced 6+ spore crawlers before 6 minutes
Forced the cancel on the fourth base
Killed the fifth base.
Accumulated value throughout the game killing lings and forcing spire tech.
BCâs forced 7+ corruptors by 6:30 just for the zerg to be safe.
You are dealing with people that are simple-minded and fail to understand the basic principles of the game and specifically the concept of missapropriation.
Itâs like a fight between an Infestor with a bunch of lings with MMM. The simple-minded dude would think that all Maru and Murdu were killed by Lings failing to understand that it was the Fungal that made it possible.
Poor dudes: they count simply how many Drones a BC killed and fail to see what a Zerg has to do to counter itâŠ
Donât waste your time and energy Lethe trying to argue with such people.
I think the big takeaway from this thread is that protoss has done what you mentioned they canât do (Sonicâs post), and there was also no forum uproar when it happened (which is why you didnât even know that game existed).
I donât know why you would all of a sudden agree with âollumbubuâ when you should be humble enough to know that this thread proved your belief wrong.
My point is justified for what I said above. Different maps get changed out all the time and maps like that one do exist, and smaller maps and proxy favorable maps and so on.
Youâre dodging the point. The point being you said players would be in uproar if protoss ever did 2 base carriers successfully. No one was in uproar.
Show me a post where the community (not just 1 random player) was outraged by protoss doing a 2 base carrier strat (ie terran or zerg players as somewhat a collective entity stating as such).
Las week I got carrier rushed with two bases (p took the third but only had 4 probes and a pylon so basically 2 base eco),lost because I had not enough queens and made hidras, the P microed his carriers and couldnât reach them and lost too much.
I think itâs bad for the game high tier air units appearing on the game at the first stages of the game, they power combined with cliffs/rocks/wallsâŠmakes them almost broken in some maps. I also got destroyed by tempest rush on that map with double gold at the middle, P even made some batteries and couldnât do anything against that range,he could snipe my main and nat uncontested.