With only two weeks until the patch, there’s not much time, or any time left for any more major changes. The only time there’s left is to make some tweaks to whats there and test it out.
They said in the notes that these changes are not final, if they gonna release another proposal or just patch what they want amd when idk, but I would love to know.
when they say that, it usually means 99% is final and the other 1% they either remove or tweak it
They can still bring some changes to that list on the patchday. Im also sure, that they will tweak in changes every week or two weeks after the patch goes live.
I guess really final is it, when the first tournaments of 2020 are happening.
The better not do the Adept Glaive change and the Observer nerfs. Both those changes are so bad.
Microbial Shroud just needs a few more buffs to be as good as it almost is.
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I’m guessing the final tweak will be Observer speed nerfed to .5, cannot exit Surveillance Mode once entered, is no longer cloaked, has a 120 second timed life, Terran opponents are alerted when obs is finished building, and the cost is increased to 200/200.
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All they have to do is tweak the adept upgrade to make it useful. Give it more attack speed and make the duration last longer.
No, they need to just keep Glaives as is. They had absolutely no reason to change something that wasn’t broken. Changing things for the sake of changing things is the worse type of “spice things up” balancing.
If they want to make the Adept better in the mid game and “different from the Zealot”, just let it attack air. Also in the mid game Adepts need more HP so just increase the HP to 80/70 or 80/80.
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Observers, the most powerful unit in the game. That cause low level Terran players to nuke their own armies.
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their idea is way better than yours for the adept. Adepts are amove with the upgrade, after this change, they wont be. sc2 needs more of that, weak when a-move, strong when using micro.
The idea is absolutely terrible for the unit. My changes make it better in the mid game as a core unit which is what it needs desperately and what Protoss needs desperately.
Adepts have lower HP than they did in the past, Adepts will now have no attack speed upgrade which means they have a very slow attack speed and they don’t have a shield upgrade to make them more durable.
All units in SC2 that can attack are “a-move units”.
They won’t be used at all and Glaives won’t be used at all.
You have never actually played with the Blizzard Adept Glaive change in game have you?.
PROTOSS DOESN’T NEED MORE FLASHY GIMMICKS, THEY NEED SOLID UNITS AND GAMEPLAY.
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This might a little harsh. I can see adept allins being a thing still but as far as the adept being a core unit lmao.
In team games will be even more Brotos Air Gold kings 
you dont know what “a-move” means in the context that people use it in. You also dont know what “gimmick” means. Its no different than stimmed bio.
They try to promote different new timing attacks. Change things for the sake of changing is there to shake up the meta.
Im really wondering, how the new infestor ability works out, but tbh, it should reduce the dmg of every range attack, not just air.
all they have to do is make the upgrade take longer to research. 99% of the time players harass mineral lines without the upgrade.
They won’t even be a thing anymore!.
Adepts have a slow attack speed with no attack speed upgrade which means they are dead because they don’t have enough HP to survive.
The Glaive upgrade change is terrible. Instead of getting an attack speed increase the entire time the Adept is alive…
It’s only 6 seconds, only after you do a successful shade and only after you get an upgrade.
Shut up you stupid out of touch boomer.
Why?. That would make it even less used than it actually is and is going to be.
99% of the time they are using Zealots, not Adepts for mineral line harass in the mid-late game because Zealots can be used as part of the core army comp. They use Oracles in ZvP to harass mineral lines more than they do with Adepts because Oracles have mid-late game value.
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Yeah but to be fair every time I go for glaives pushes I generally just shade in or juke the zerg in to running after the shades. But I do see how it is a gigantic nerf.
Do they honestly expect Protoss players to be constantly shading?. When the bonus is only if you get Glaives and if they do a successful shade?.
Also why are they trying to promote Adepts shading on to armies when it’s the Zealot role to be on top of enemy armies especially after the change change?
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have to result to using anger when you run out of arguments and when you think only your idea for the change is the only good one and doesnt even want to think about trying to make other ides work.
Your idea for it is crap. It wont be useful at all. Then it will overlap with stalkers. And the unit will still be useless because it barely has any hp and shields.
Im a non-baised protoss player and I welcome the challenge of extra apm and unit control to make the unit work effectively with my main army. Cant wait.
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