The main focus of this patch is map editor. In addition, War 3 mode is also included. There is also War 3 coop mod.
Many people wonder if Warcraft 3 coop is added to Star Craft 2.
I don’t know if it will be added or will be officially released.
If War3 commanders come with Star II Commander, I agree, but If it’s the opposite, I object.
Star II being Star II, War 3 being War 3.
The entry of Warcraft 3 elements into the co-op is what it agrees, but releasing Commander is a different thing.
The main reason is that the world views of the two games are different. secondly,
It shakes foundation of Starcraft II.
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It’s unclear what their intention is with regards to sc2 and wc3.
I definitely would hate it if they merge them (and their way to do so is by providing this update via map editor).
I am hopeful that it is just an update that they worked on, and the 2 have nothing to do with one another.
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If they do any kind of WarCraft co-op, it better be for WarCraft 4. While WarCraft 3 is a good game, it’s old and janky compared to StarCraft 2.
Still, StarCraft 2 co-op needs to be its own standalone game.
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Warcraft 4 won’t happen, WoW killed it a long time ago.
But God, I’ve never wanted to be wrong more than now.
FWIW, WoW may have killed Sc2 Coop as well. I’m guessing much of their former resources in the former have been diverted to the latter.
Personally if they added WC3 commanders to SC2 coop I wouldn’t mind… If that meant a new commander every 2~3 months that is.
And I think that might be the only reasonable option. If they create a new RTS focused on coop (Let’s say a Blizzard Allstars like HOTS) it will just render SC2 coop useless.
If they create WC4 with coop included, it will just make reforged even more useless than it is right now. Blizzard has to fix their mistake with reforged if they want to keep integrity with the customer base, you can’t just ruin a game and forget it. Optionally, they add coop to reforged, which honestly, given they struggle with adding proper ladder to the game, ain’t gonna happen.
So I’d rather just say WC3 Coop isn’t going to happen by Blizzard’s hands, but most likely by fan’s hands. That might have been partially the purpose of the SC2 coop editor update.
On that note, if that’s how they’ll go about it, then what is even the point of coop mode at all? Aside from Bliz going even more cash money hungry?
There are a ton of people who’ve had A1000 and all commanders maxed out forever. And all achievements in coop section from years ago (trickling in with each new commander release). Outside of that, why play coop at all?
We have a topic created and frequented from a coop-variant arcade map that does basically just that already. Why bother waiting for Bliz to slow release a non-starcraft commander that may or may not be even fun/good. When everyone can just play these arcade maps, which are no less in quality (some even better per their own plot/theme) AND actually receives constant attention from their mapmakers?
I just feel (as I gather from many others) that if they indeed does this, it’ll be an even lower new low for the devs/bliz.
I don’t see the “even lower” there when everything you said can already be applied to the game right now. People make coop outside of coop, that alone should make “official coop” useless, no? Adding WC commanders or not changes nothing.
I don’t mean in terms of resources (this always can be moved from one project to another), but story. Warcraft 3 story had to be continued somehow and Blizzard decided that WoW will fulfill that role.
Now they can’t just make WC4 because WoW and all its expansions moved the story so far that WC3 players that didn’t play WoW just won’t understand anything. And I’m not sure, but think that’s significant part of fans, because while these two games are connected by single story, the genres are completely different.
Trying to continue story from where WC3 ended copying the WoW or making spin-off story different from WoW from that point are also not really viable options, as I see it. And WoW story still constantly progresses in new expansions.
Making WC4 just for multiplayer or co-op? This will severely decrease the sells because many players still play only for single player campaign.
Um yes… that’s exactly it.
Take M’s maps for example, they are just better, hands down. The only issue is they can’t be randomized and requires a partner (or otherwise solo). Yet, they are arcade maps (even though a better version of coop mode, map per map compared).
So if the map editor gives further reign, then more of them will be out. You can view M’s maps (or thereof WC3 maps) as “coop mode”, but they just aren’t. They are arcade maps.
So yeah, exactly, it renders coop MODE useless. Especially we are talking about your hypothetical of waiting for bliz to release WC3 commander every 2-3month. Lol, why would anyone be willing to wait or pay for them?
They could end World of WarCraft with Shadowlands and make an entirely new story with WarCraft 4 which could kickstart World of WarCraft 2 on a new and better engine.
I won’t say its impossible, but abandoning WoW seems quite unrealistic. Its stilll to popular for it.