A friendly reminder to those who hate the infestor

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Broodlord/infestor in WoL vs Broodlord/infestor in the current day - very imbalanced vs not imbalanced at all. The infestor doesn’t need to be changed - your game-play needs to be changed. Next time you feel the urge to fly to the forums at light-speed to cry about how you are actually the one who deserved to win, post the replay and we’ll analyze what you did wrong. This isn’t a game design problem - this is a you problem. If you genuinely outplayed your opponent and deserved to win, it should be very evident in the replay, in which case by sharing a replay you proved your point. No replays = you are scared that the replays don’t actually support your position and you admit you are wrong through the refusal to provide evidence to back up your claims.

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What will Batz do for a Klondike bar?

Protect zerg in any and every scenario possible, while tearing down terran in any and every scenario, even when it is unbelievable obvious there are problems with late game zerg. So much in fact, that EU zerg Elazer made it to the finals along with another EU zerg, in which Elazer is clearly not better than most other players in the tournament, but took advantage in part of late game GGlords+infestor combination.

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I don’t see a replay.

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That’s a pretty bold statement for someone who consistently blurs out their account names and MMR.

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Serral, Elazer, soO, and pretty much every other Zerg in GSL vs. the world: “Zerg lategame is super OP”.

Batz/Drone: “Zerg lategame 100% balances guys, terran late need nerf”.

I’d say it looks really bad for anyone siding with you.

But hey, let’s look at your weak attempt to bend evidence in your favor.

Firstly, I would point out that I see only 2 points after the first BL/Infestor era where a Zerg involving MU was more imbalanced than it.

The first is PvZ at LotV release, Zerg favored. And the second, also Zerg favored PvZ, is when the carrier got the interceptor buff. Well, clearly 5 minerals was still not strong enough, just look at the winrate. We definately need 0 mineral interceptors, these stats clearly show that it would be 100% balanced. Not to mention that clearly we need the 4 supply tempest back, the LotV release stats clearly show it was vastly underpowered, maybe we even need 3 supply tempests!

What’s that? Maybe these winrates aren’t purely indicitive of lategame? What a novel thought! Unfortunately I’m going to have to apply that to the whole BL/Infestor OP then not OP now ordeal.

Let’s look at Terran’s “don’t let them get there” tools that they didn’t have then. Terran has:

  • buffed tanks (better than WoL even)
  • widow mines
  • medivac afterburners, yes even those weren’t there before
  • cyclones
  • and most importantly, BC rush.

These all hit LONG before BL/Infestor happens. So terran can balance winrates by making sure lategame happens as rarely as possible, and if it does happen they make sure that they enter it with an enormous lead.

And Protoss? Well they have:

  • Shield batteries (at no loss, there was no mama core back then)
  • Prism pickup range
  • Immortal Barrier instead of hardened shields (great for ling/Queen)
  • Charge impact damage
  • They even have faster obs/cheaper hallucination to scout the hive

And again, we see protoss has so many tools to… desperately all-in first on 2 base and again as hive tech is finishing. Cool.

So yeah, maybe there’s a reason that almost every pro player agrees that Zerg lategame, especially infestors, is OP. Just maybe.

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i think TvZ is closer than ZvP because of the advantage of T range (gta, gtg, ata, atg).
The problem with Infestors is in the higher rating. If the infestors are correctly controlled.
I’m also afraid blizzard doesn’t know how to change it. Because they want Zerg as a late game race.

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How can I post my replays?

Nah, bro. You’re just a Terran whiner.

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You have to use the drop sc website and post the link.

Protect zergs (even they are very strong)
Nerf toss (even they are very weak)
Whine on terran (even if they are fine)

A reminder to every zerg player.

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I still don’t see a replay. Thanks for agreeing that I am correct.

“Waaaa! Mommy! Zerg is OP with their perfect 50% winrate!”

“All the pro players agree zerg is OP”

REEEEEEEE

Says the man who complains about games that he wins.

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Mr. “PhD” K. strikes again with his humor IQ of 400. Oops. Did I say 400? I meant -400.

tEhbAtz uses Ad-Hominem! Its not very effective…

tEhbAtz is confused!

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Make that -100000000.

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Im sorry that you have trouble understanding things like “facts” and “humor”, but that’s a you problem. Just because you cant understand it doesn’t make it stupid or wrong.

LOL what is this elementary school insult. I think it would have been way more edgy to just say NOT instead of OOPS I meant -400 hur dur.

Just trying to help you troll better as it seems you are losing your touch.

Gotta keep it simple for Phd K.

Oh, come on, that’s not true. He definitely whines about nerfing Terran WAY more than he whines about Protoss. I think he’s only cried about the Immortal for the most part and insisted that his mutas that were no where near the Immortals be able to kill them.

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