I agree zarya ball and hog are good because they can dps
Hit the nail right on the head. Ball has had very little changes. Zarya has had NERFS, and Hog is quite literally worse than his pre damage buff.
And somehow, theyâre all on top. Why? Because the other tanks have been nerfed into the dirt, so of course theyâre going to be the best when the others are so underpowered
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Meta doesnât matter IN Masters.
Hmmm. Well, in that case wouldnât you think survival focused buffs would be better?
Like letâs say a smaller headshot hurtbox, or perhaps a lower cooldown on repeat DM usage, or maybe a faster regeneration rate for DM resource.
Hog and Ball are near the bottom in winrate⌠Maybe itâs just people donât want to play blue rectangle man or his friends if they donât absolutely have to.
The smaller critbox would fix one of D.Vaâs main problems. But even then, she needs a 12m matrix. One of her main jobs is peeling, and she canât consistently save teammates from something like a Hook, for example.
Just ignoring that sigma is also nuts rn?
Sigma needs a small buff, probably just giving back the CC scaling on distance Accretion. Maybe increasing his barrier regen rate too?
Heâs like the best combo to play with both hog and ball
Ball/Sigma isnât good except maybe in 1 area of 1 map, and Hog/Sigma is currently worse than Hog/Zarya (at least from what Iâve seen).
No, lol. Zarya is the best right now. Her winrate is even close to Reinhardtâs who has half her pickrate.
Ball sigma is basically the go to dive comp on open maps, on medium and below you just run ball DVA/monkey dva but itâs definitely viable, hog sigma is literally just better hog zarya, I literally canât think of anything zarya does that sigma doesnât besides cleanse, but having a consistent barrier is just way stronger plus stun plus succ. Hog zarya is probably the third worse hog tankline
Isnât that what rein does to basically all tanks?
Also during even the highest point of orisas double shield we saw the most diverse range of tanks for 99% of the population, so Iâd argue it was the opposite actually.
I just think she needs a good boost to be the âgo to pickâ on defense, like she should be.
As a tank main I WANT to play ryn , heâs awesome and requires outplaying the other tanks , but because I dont get the same value and heâs not the best right now itâs just better to go with the âgoodâ tanks that arenât nerfed as hard
Itâs just what youâre saying doesnât really reflect my experience or the numbers. Rein is near the top on winrate for almost every rank and doesnât have a low pickrate at GM either. Outside of GM heâs often the most picked on top of hacking a high winrate.
Zarla, Bail, and Hong.
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I donât always agree with just looking at numbers and yeah I know he USED to be played a lot but compared to Zaria , hog , ball as a tank it just feel hard to carry Iâd rather just pick 1 of the 3 and feel confident I can carry , rather then a tank that really has to rely on the team because itâs HARDER then it already is in latter to climb
Thatâs fair you want to play rein but not everyone feels the same way.
I personally really dislike playing rein and dislike rein metas.
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Thatâs what Rein has always been though. Heâs a safety blanket for the team. A ton of his power comes from having a giant blue bullet sponge that easily makes space for the team. Off tanks have a slightly different job, but Ball has a much more active and riskier role and still I wouldnât really say heâs outperforming based on the numbers.
And yeah, the numbers arenât perfect and wonât tell you everything, but that doesnât mean they tell you nothing either. If a hero has a ~30% winrate then theyâre garbage. >60% and theyâre OP. And you have to factor in pickrate too. All we can say that seems fairly certain is that Rein, while not the mandatory pick he once was, isnât terrible like youâre making him out to be.
And I love it. There are I think a lot of people who hate feeling forced to play Rein and for a long time I think weâve felt that way. The tank balance right now is better than ever in my opinion.
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Amen, buff orisa and sigma for obvious reasons, let rein cancel his charge (at the cost of a smaller hitbox) and give Winston a third ability for gods sake it makes no sense that heâs the only barrier tank to not have a second ability that isnât his shield. And just give dva 300 armor and 300 health sheâs squisher than a tracer and sadly Iâm not kidding, that hitbox for her head is bigger than Nicki minajâs butt
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