Y'all really like to underestimate Overwatch 2 huh?

Calling it a “DLC” or an “Expansion” while not even knowing what the final product will look like…

Overwatch 2 will have 8+ new heroes.

Tons and tons of new maps.

A STORY MODE, at long LAST for our favorite OW characters.

New looks for 31 heroes.

New progressions system and PERMENANT PVE.

New PvP mode called Push.

A greatly upgraded engine, graphics, UI, menu, heck, it could even be an open world game for all we know and that’s why it’s taking so long!

AND, we get to keep ALL of our cosmetics and favorite heroes and maps with us for OW2??

That sounds like an AMAZING sequel to me… does it sound like one to you?


Sounds nice and dandy but seeing how they dealt with OW1 there isnt much confidence.


Personally? I’m just excited for a story mode tbh. I need something “new” and “exciting”. OW1 is fun but it is very repetitive and as someone who has been playing since beta? I am tired of it now. Same song and dance over and over again.

I’m hoping to see the new lore and cutscenes, new interactions, characters and skillsets! Plus, the new skins! :relaxed: I know this will rejuvenate my love for the series again. I’m hoping Blizzcon delivers this year OW2 news.


Depends on if that Story mode is good
If it is then cool
If not then probably gonna call it trash and get a refund


I love that all my stuff and stats from OW1 will still be there. I’ve collected almost every item there ever was. It would’ve been real easy to make OW2 a required purchase with a full reset in cosmetics and everything (Call of Duty, also an Activision game, does it every year) but Blizz didn’t do that and they’re not getting enough credit for it.


So 8 heroes which with delays woukd be about 2 more than what weve released

31 premium skins so like 4 events

Push is just a mix of KoTh and payload and its not that unique… So we only got storymode. For pvp its just releasing all the content we would’ve had on normal schedule in bulk


do we know this? source?


This made me laugh… source?


Yeah…that all sounds like pretty standard expansion stuff to me. Or at most, a 2.0 along the lines of what FFXIV did with a Realm Reborn.

Mind you, there’s nothing wrong with being an expansion and it’s not like they don’t generally drop massive amounts of content, in fact, it’s far better for live service games imo. But sequels require far more drastic changes, especially when a lot of the content, is things that would’ve already been released normally.

Also, unless word has recently dropped and I missed it, hero number has never been confirmed. And the engine is just being updated, not completely new.


Minimum 8, however this number is not confirmed, its a popular fan number not an official number, in terms of officially confirmed new heroes there’s 1 in Sojourn and 4 more if you include the ones from that interview around blizzcon.

Again minimum, but something I never see mentioned enough is that the popular leaker who we get a lot of our info from brought up that there will be Customizable Legendary skins not just legendary skins, like how paladins old skin system used to work we’ll be able to customize different parts of our skins.

sigh… that’s just dumb. :slight_smile:

We have literally 0 official clue about that. We talk a lot about the stuff coming with OW2 but there’s honestly not a lot of actually confirmed stuff a assuming any of this one way or the other is dumb, but from the leaks we have gotten they definitely support it being more than “just a dlc”


I mean, they bashed Overwatch’s kneecaps in so Overwatch 2 could run.
Or something like that.


This is also a dev team that had great success with the first part and instead striking while the iron was hot they let it fizzle out, released terrible hero’s that broke the game then forced a pro scene that continued to alienate their base.

Ya I think it’s safe to be cautious. It doesn’t help that this is the wealthiest label out there who is struggling with the basics.



Define “tons and tons.” We haven’t been given a firm number, so this is entirely speculative. We know of four or five maps for sure, and they’ve promised some additional, but who knows how many that will be?

This would be more meaningful if it wasn’t kinda par-for-the-course for games to release new game modes all the time in addition to significant expansions of modes whenever a new game or expansion comes out (as well as the fact that OW1 players will have access without paying a nickel… more on that later). Overwatch… has kind of done this, but for the most part we’ve been playing the same few modes for a while now, and many of the newer modes are time-gated to specific events. It’s not a “bad” addition, but it’s hard to look at “a new mode” and really chalk up lots of excitement for a brand new game from it.

Basically a skin… whoopee…

More speculation on “open world,” and beyond that, it’s poorly-founded speculation because to the extent that we have any information about the game, it seems to point more strongly toward a linear-driven story, not an open-world game. Moreover, much of what you describe here has been achieved by other games with a simple 2.0 Update or in an expansion, so I again don’t see this as being a strong selling point for a brand new game.

These are kind of redundant, so I’ll address them together. These are basically the only items that might justify OW2 as a legitimate sequel and not as a simple expansion… and I really stress “might,” because we know next to nothing about it aside some vague promises and one mission–and I’m not gonna lie, that mission really wasn’t too impressive. Was it awful? No, but I wouldn’t shell out 60 bucks for 15 hours of that. The lack of detail so far is what has many of us deeply concerned, particularly as many of the aspects which seem to be implemented to cultivate replayability (i.e. hero talents) are so-far shallow and overhyped. Are they neat? Sure… but are they worth a full, brand-new game? I, and many others, are extremely skeptical, particularly given how poorly Blizzard has been faring for a few years now.

What punts it even more into questionable territory is that the PvE is pretty much the only element that OW1 players won’t be getting… So, like, OW2 really is just the PvE. Push, new heroes, etc will be available for OW1, so that’s not really part of OW2, is it? It’s just an update coinciding with OW2’s release, which is an admittedly clever marketing strategy to make OW2 seem larger than what it is

Which is all to say, no, I don’t think we as a community are underestimating OW2 at all. I think it’s being given a very fair estimation, given what we know currently about the game and about Blizzard’s recent track record with, well, nearly every franchise including Overwatch. Could Blizzard surprise us? Yeah, it’s entirely possible, but as it stands, there’s not really any specific reason to believe that.


They’ve seemed to promise a great deal for Overwatch 2 but as for showing that great deal, well, not so much. That mixed with the fact that we haven’t had any notable news on it in nearly 15 months and the initial reveal immediately confused people in a number of ways leads to this, people not really knowing how to feel and how to view whatever “Overwatch 2” really is.

Just continuing to wait on Blizzcon, that’s what it all comes down to…

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I think someone will be very disappointed when OW2 comes out and that one won’t be me :hugs:


Its less about underestimating it and simply trying to tread the side of caution. Not trying to be sheep I guess so to speak. People can say whatever they want and some have history to back up their claims for trustworthiness.

However, situations change stuff comes up things change and suddenly the bright image you wanted to believe in was actually reduced. I’ve seen management figures foolishly believe that “Oh, yeah, we’ll be done in 6 months” and suddenly having never done the development themselves routinely ignore people saying these are the issues we are going to have its going to take longer and routinely keep ignoring it until they can’t ignore it any long and that’s when the push backs happens.

We want the world to be a bright and happy place, but reality is things do not always turn out as we like. Have fun imaging what it might be, but the more one inflates their imagination the harder it is to swallow or the more upset they are when its not as they envisioned.

Also, its to the point of why people say not to support pre-orders of things as you are being sold content on a promise, not as the end result. There are all sorts of examples out there of these type of games.

BioWare has launched to some less than grand titles like Anthem and Andromeda right after their big success with Mass Effect in the early 2010s. Cyberpunk 2077 is the latest in grandiose games and promises that had to be scaled back and launched so poorly on console for refunds and delisting of the game. Even right after the success of Witcher 3.


We don’t know how much will come.
What is known is: 1 new PvP mode, 4 new PvP maps, 1 new hero. (at least that’s the basis for PvP)
For PvE we only know of 4-player co-op story missions, hero missions on slightly modified PvP maps (similar to WoW World Quest) and a talent system in PvE. That is what we know and it can still be deleted. (A lead story designer is currently being sought, which suggests that OW2 is still very much in development and the trailers (with regard to gameplay) are a fake.)

It is better to start with little new content than to expect too much. OW2 would rather exceed the low expectations and be more happy than expecting too much and then being hugely disappointed. That is the problem with hypes, at some point the hype becomes bigger than the game itself and then the disappointment is great.

For my part, I remain realistic. I expect the quality of the PvE missions from the Archives event (I hope it gets better). approx. 5 new heroes, the new mode and the maps. And if you consider that everything regarding PvP also gets Overwatch as well as the engine update (hopefully optional) and on top of that both games use the same client that everything looks more like a DLC, which is marketed as a “new” game.
Anyway, I wouldn’t see OW2 as a sequel, but rather as a separate branch. Currently it is so that you only need OW2 for PvE and you can also play PvP with Overwatch. (Don’t forget crossplay)

I’m absolutely not interested in things like the graphics or the skins. I prefer the original graphics.
I still wonder where Reinhard stows his hair and beard when he’s on his helmet. And I don’t really like Mercy’s hairstyle either. (Luckily she has her right hairstyle in the trailer) The updated graphics engine (yes, it’s not a completely new engine) and the interface seem cold, sterile, repulsive to me.

Same as Overwatch 1 :o
The new looks are just skins basically and overwatch also have skins, the only major thing that makes them different is the pve

Some people are cautious about how well OW2 will do as an expansion/sequel. Others are just mindlessly hating on the concept of it because they haven’t found the effort to stop playing OW yet.

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Really now? Lets be realistic…

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