Widowmaker Dumpstered that Kephrii Refuses to Play Widow

Gale and keph are two peas in a pod.

i remember that drama also. i think he just sucked really bad since not playing csgo for a long time. probably had no business being in a high stakes tournament. of course people would be mad for having a bad teamamte so i can see cheating accusations

i watch kephrii for his widow gameplay but as an individual personally i dont know much about him. i do remember that controversy of him texting an “underage girl (dont think it was an underage girl… not sure)” while being married and that 8 inch meme (lawl)

do i think of him as a terrible person… i dont judge since we are all human and have faults. like i said i jsut watch him because of his widow play and dont care about his personal life

i mean i hate samito and how he acts but he may be a cool guy if i ever knew him for real. its none of my business on what these streamers do in their personal life. if they break laws then they get punished. hopefully lol?

The issue with Widow is that, if she’s effective as she is now, people will hate her. For that reason, I’d absolutely ignore widow complaints and just give her whatever buffs she needs. Of course, if Widow was absolutely making people leave, then I’d radically change her.

…But she isn’t. All of you widow complainers will continue to play Overwatch, so why not practice good game design choices and ensure she’s playable? Not that I think she’s unplayable now, I’m just making a point.

If only. Then she’d be fine. But her one shot range is SEVEN TRACER BLINKS LONG. Do you understand how long it takes to traverse that for anyone? It’s too long. She still plays too far away to dive her.

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I’d say leave her how she is currently and nerf Hanzo just as bad.

She got giga-buffed at the beginning of OW2, and got a giga-buff in open queue as well, she just finally got adjusted, not in a way that actually matters but it’s something at least.
Deal with it.

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they one shot to the chest in almost every other fps game what are you even trying to get at?

The counterpoint to that is if she remains as effective as she is now, people will continue to hate playing against her and OW absolutely will lose players. Buffing her will just lose more.

I personally leave any game where i get 1 shot. Every single time, even if i’m winning.

But i agree she needs a radical rework and better design choices. She suffers from a similar problem to CC or shields - its fun to use, but sucks to have used against you. CC and shields got nerfed to hell.

Roadhog was straight up broken.

Knowing me, I’m the kind of widow who, after taking the time to climb up there, would nervously miss the first shot, then get punted into the stratosphere by the enemy team. :weary:

But in no way do I think widow is dumpstered. I’ve had a long time to figure how I’m supposed to play as widow, and some strategies may not be as viable as before. Rather, they’re more risky because of the 175 health. But it’s still possible to finish off a wounded target with the assault rifle or take a quick headshot before moving position. And it is still so much fun to do so.

to be fair, this could be said about any hero and their respective communities

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Oh, no it won’t. Blizzard has implemented numerous frustrating and literally anti consumer practices in Overwatch and tons of people still simp for it. I find it tough to believe the annoying blue lady will drive anyone away.

I’m willing to bet more people say they do this than actually do this.

Have you considered that maybe your fun isn’t more important than the person playing against you. For example, I have fun blocking damage with my shields, but people don’t like shooting shields. Why should I take a nerf to my shield? Why is my fun less important than others?

Similarly, why should widow be nerfed because you don’t find her fun? Why doesn’t the other side have any say? Also

Yeah, and you guys hate it. the shields and tank nerfs specifically gave Widow and Hanzo big indirect buffs. Of course, half of you can’t see that, and the other half can’t admit it.

The same Kephri that plays her right now?

Yeah, not giving her 200 HP when she has to position closer was stupid on the balance team end. Everybody hating on Widowmaker just garbage at shooters in general and cope on AimbotWatch, probably main Mercy or some projectile based hero.

Sure, but Widow and Tracer mains are literally babied by the devs. Nerfs to Widow or Tracer are gonna be met much more harshly by the community.

Well he cheated on his wife, so it wouldn’t surprise me.

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Every single thing that annoys people reduces the player count and bliz’s income. It doesnt matter if people just say they leave, they are getting annoyed by it. I personally leave.

Yup, i have considered that my fun is the same value as the person against me. However, if even 2 people are getting annoyed with shooting shields, your fun of holding a shield is less important, you’re outnumbered. Every time shield haters see a shield, they get more annoyed while the person holding the shield maintains the same level of fun. Same logic goes for widow.

Please dont refer to me as “you guys”, i’m not part of any group of people. I agree that the shield nerfs caused indirect widow and hanzo buffs. They should therefore be nerfed appropriately.

I think you’re overestimating this. Do you think every little thing drives a player away? Because it doesn’t. This forum is proof of that. The same people have been complaining about widow for years…while playing Overwatch. That’s not effecting Blizzards income in any negative way.

Sure, I’m sure some people stopped playing because of widow, but not enough to where its an issue. And you’re not going to convince me that people kept playing through developer lies, promised essential features that were canceled, and other anti consumer practices, but then stopped playing because the mean purple lady shot them in the face. So don’t bother.

And you’ve found your fun was more important than theirs because you’re you.

Interesting. What about this?

Two people are annoyed at shooting shields, but shields are important in keeping other characters in line. Who’s outnumbered then? You see, good game design would likely tell the developers “well, you can’t remove shields, or even a tank, because then characters they countered would get a huge indirect buff. Characters like snipers”. So, good developers wouldn’t do those poor choices.

Then we have Overwatch developers who’s done the opposite.

Stop acting like “you guys” then. So far, you’ve said and held every opinion that I associate with “you guys”. From the anti widow talk, to the “my fun is more important than game balance” talk, to the “I’ll leave the game because of mechanics I don’t like, but not because of the developers literally mistreating the player base” talk. You are exactly what I mean when I say “you guys”.

Another post about Widow being, almost, nerfed to an ok state. I’m not crying

Unfortunately though, the vast majority of the playerbase has been gaslight and brainwashed into believing the exact opposite.