Widow is destroying Master, GM, TOP500 and OWL

This is game with supports and should be balanced as such. Brigitte has a lower pickrate than most of the dive heroes.

Everyone bends over backwards to keep Hanzo on the field.

thats literally the entire point of a sniper, by taking away the only useful part of her kit youā€™re essentially making her pointless to even think about learning

if you want to use that logic, then i think dvaā€™s ult shouldnā€™t one shot anyone in its radius

She just ruined the game for everybody else, and people hard stuck in gold and silver climbed to top 500.

That means they were better at her than everyone else.

The top 1% of any hero should be in GM.

The game should be balanced around GM.

So youā€™re actually arguing that this is what pros did?

Weā€™re still talking about PROS, right?

No they werenā€™t. The game in Season 3 was Triple Tank: Reinhardt, Zarya and Roadhog specifically. D.Va was only an occasional alternative.

I think one of the things during 3 tank meta that is often forgotten was hog could delete people with the hook combo FAR more easilyā€¦

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Iā€™m saying dive heroes didnā€™t really get changed between tank meta and dive.
Like Dva was basically the same until the micro missiles rework, Winston got a shield cooldown buff, Tracerā€™s ult got nerfed, and Genji got his deflect hitbox shrunk.
Thatā€™s it.

And since you have an obsession with Pros, while I donā€™t even follow owl, pros actually played a quad tank meta in season 3.

How dare people be rewarded for mastering a high skill cap hero.

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POSSIBLE SOLLUTIONS one of the bellow?

  1. INCREASE COOL DOWN ON THE JUMP ROPE

  2. DECREASE DAMAGE UNLESS ITS A HEADSHOT

  3. MAKE HER HITBOX BIGGER

Thatā€™s irrelevant, since the only Dive hero played with such frequency in Season 3 was D.Va (which kind of inflates her numbers, but Iā€™ll get to that in a sec), and even then, not nearly as often as during Dive Meta.

Here is the Season 3 Meta, in summation:

https:// www.overbuff .com/blog/2017-02-22-overwatch-hero-tier-list-and-meta-report-season-3-review

The most used Dive Tank was Winston. Tracer and Genji were played about 30% of the time. D.va was only used 17% of the time. And even these numbers are after Dive made somewhat of a comeback following the nerf to Anaā€™s ult charge.

While D.Va saw lots of usage between the Christmas and Year of the Rooster events due to her buffs, she was the ONLY dive hero that saw such use. (https:// www.overbuff .com/blog/2016-12-15-overwatch-hero-meta-report-the-meta-that-was). Winston and Genji were basically unheard of, and Tracer really isnā€™t the type hero Ana needs to worry about blocking her shots with her body or a barrier.

That is a far cry from full fledged Dive Meta, where Winston and D.Va were used between 80% and 90% of the time, with bodies, barriers and matrices flying everywhere.

With every meta change, there will always be complaints.
Leave Widow alone, any hero who requires as much precision and aim doesnā€™t deserve to be nerfed, whatsoever- especially in the event that the meta favors their playstyle.

Actual solution: Nerf supports.

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um barriers can shut her down or try to fight in off angles where canā€™t be used as effectively. or you know maybe you got out played by a skilled player?

Meaning dive didnā€™t affect Ana nearly as much as people claim.
I rest my case.

A lone D.va is ā€œDiveā€ now?

Huh.

If dive destroyed Ana, she wouldnā€™t have been a must pick in season 3, since you could have played dive to itā€™s fullest, since none of the dive heroes actually changed.

Even before Brigitte got into OWL widow was still played. Winston is a direct counter to widow but Widow will have her grapple to escape or like some widows do Headshot/Shoot Winston mid jump before he lands to try to kill him.

Widow falls under the same category as tracer meaning, in the right hands they can completely dominate a game(not solo ofc) but put an average player on tracer or widow they wont have as much impact unless they popped off.

Thatā€™s not how it works.

Hereā€™s the tier list from before D.Va was buffed.

https:// www.overbuff .com/blog/2016-10-26-overwatch-hero-tier-list-and-meta-report-a-meta-divided

And hereā€™s the list from AFTER she was buffed.

https:// www.overbuff .com/blog/2016-11-30-overwatch-hero-tier-list-and-meta-report-who-s-meta-is-it-anyway

It looks almost like the prevalence of D.Va had a direct impact on how dominant Ana was.

Dive Meta relies upon the team being able to kill one target (particularly a squishy DPS) faster than a healer can save them. That was impossible during Triple Tank due to the tankiness of the targets, and the overall power of their kits as a whole. In Quad Tank, that problem is even worse, since the only squishies were a super-fast Lucio and Ana. But even then, having a D.Va matrixing in Anaā€™s face was huge detriment to her ability.

To prove it, hereā€™s the Meta report in July 2017, after Dive started, but before Mercy was reworked.

https:// www.overbuff .com/blog/2017-07-12-overwatch-hero-tier-list-and-meta-report-a-meta-abridged

Notice that while Anaā€™s pickrate fell to C tier, Mercyā€™s is even lower Hmm. Itā€™s almost like Ana isnā€™t good against that particular composition, and it has nothing to do with the strength of Mercyā€™s healing.

In addition, hereā€™s what Overbuff had to say about it:

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Watched some matches today in Contender and its absolutely not fun. like 80% of time camera is on Widow flying around or sniping. Some shots and tricks are truly amazing, but its nowhere as fun to watch as dynamic close range fight of say Tracer or Genji.

Currently watching OW as sport is underwhelming thanks to her.

Go to CSGO if you are worry about the aim