Widow and Ashe need a nerf

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Me personally I think fighting ashe and widow is worse then playing in hog Zarya meta. They sit so far back you can’t dive them without getting cc into oblivion by their team that’s only if you don’t get headshot before that.

Now I think they need to have a shorter damage fall off or have less health if not both. Ashe & Widow should have anywhere from 150 to 170 health. How many games have you had ruined because they simply picked a widow or Ashe and can aim worth a damn.
Keep in mind I play Ashe so I don’t want her to be dumpster fire but I can’t stand coming out my spawn every 10 seconds, and not being able to do anything.
If this nerf isn’t enough then we can talk about nerf their damage straight up.

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Widow might need a nerf, we have to see.
Ashe definitely doesn’t need one.

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widows health was already nerfed you want her to lose 5 extra hp sure fine but its again not gonna do anything to her capabilities. her escapse has and will continue to be her problem for surviving for way too long

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So what your saying is that they need fall off damage more then anything.

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where is that anywhere in what i said

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Nvm on my previous post, I’m saying that they need a shorter fall off in order for them to be balanced

Let’s say for example your playing on Route 66 and it’s first point (you are attacking) how are you going to push a widow that is way behind her team (on the bridge to the gas station) without getting noticed by anyone well let’s say you play sombra right. Well she can jump down to her team to get help and her health restored so nope. If you pick winston then good luck not getting ccd to death before you can get to her and she still has her grapple so there goes that. And really no dps hero can really dive her if she is on high ground and here’s why
•Doomfist is very loud and widow will see doom from a mile away
•Genji is trash right now so he is useless without his team
•Tracer doesn’t have vertical mobility so you have to go the long way around

The only hero that really dive widow is ball and well most people don’t know how to play ball correctly.

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this is a terrible joke

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I understand this is the saying for thoughtless kids these days (some of whom are 20-30).

I’ve had relatives fight long, slow, excruciating battles with cancer.

I work as a home care aide with people who have had cancer. Including one extremely nice old man who has stage 4 and served his country faithfully for 26 years.

Understand that saying nonsense like this makes you look both ignorant and like a very, very bad person.

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only thing I can agree with you on

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If you have or know someone who has been through it, you have my sincerest condolences.

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Ok then let me rephrase I would rather play hog Zarya Meta then fight widow and Ashe every game

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Thanks. That’s a lot better. I, too, have things I don’t enjoy in this game, but all I can say is there are better ways to describe video game unpleasantness.

Also, saying it that way is a lot more relevant to your point, don’t you think?

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Its a joke, get over yourself, the ignorance and self entitlement here…

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because someone doesnt enjoy a joke about a terminal illness there entitled?

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Yes.

(20 characters)

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and your a piece of s*** cause you said that. both of those statements are opinions

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Thats also an opinion : )

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thats what i said dumbass

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:slight_smile: Don’t waste your energy and time with tantrum-throwing children, friend. People like that are best ignored.

Even OP changed their language, rather than picking it as the hill to die on. All’s good.

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It’s definitely not a joke, I’ve lost quite a few loved ones due to cancer and it hurts me when people use the word like that.

I think this is the first time I’ve ever agreed with you.

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