I’ve had multiple games over the weekend where people said “X diff” or started insulting 1 role. Supports seem to be the common scapegoat, especially for DPS players.
But what do you think you achieve by saying support diff during the game? You are basically saying “ok, stop healing me” because that’s exactly what will happen. I don’t heal someone that’s insulted me. Why would I?
We got a widow that said it after the 2nd fight even though she was standing somewhere we couldn’t really heal her easily, then complained the whole game that the heals were terrible - but neither of us were healing her at all after they insulted us. We didn’t coordinate that we wouldn’t heal them, but the other support took the same attitude as me. We won the game in the end even without her. I imagine everyone thought she was awful as she just kept dying
Unless you watch the replays it’s hard to really say. Just what you “feel” and the score board is often misleading. But it’s always some one else’s fault obviously.
The biggest issue is quite often people look at the numbers and say “oh our healers healed less, why we lost”. Ignoring that their team kept diving and killing your supports while you did nothing. Healers can’t heal if they are dead and many teams ignore this fact.
Happens A lot with teams with dive heavy tanks like ball or even winstons. They are so focused on pushing forward they ignore what happens to their team. Then complain when they don’t get healed.
They’re coping and don’t know what else to type so they pick something random. The amount of games I’ve been told supp diff when I had the most healing in the game and more damage than all the DPS is astronomical.
People will cling to anything but it can’t ever be their fault. Nope, never.
When I’m playing Mercy, and some enemy Moira has the nerve to tickle me to death as my team goes afk, I will switch to Moira and destroy the enemy team. Then I type “Moira diff”
Because they’ve already given up. They want to lose the game so they can blame it on someone else. It’s an absolutely awful mentality that’s become overwhelmingly prevalent in all online games, namely because popular streamers have it.
When people face any adversity at all, they instantly stop trying and start flaming. They are fully aware that flaming won’t help them win(they admit this), but to them the game is already lost anyways so they don’t care. They don’t even want to win when given an opportunity. They just have a deadly combination of ego issues and a lack of emotional control that causes everyone around them to suffer.
It’s honestly made pvp games near unplayable without a full stack. You’re just leaving your fate up to whether or not your team or the enemy team will get one of these individuals.
I mean… if someone’s playing Lifeweaver (especially if they’re bad) I may ask to diff. That or if the tank is clearly not making any advance it may be time to diff.
Cause rest of the team still rely also on that idiot. I won´t let them down, just because one dps can´t control their emotions, or own up to their own mistakes.
I don’t find that so much with supports. Often the person doing the complaining is doing something stupid like a tank running headlong into a fight or a bastion standing in the open shooting when not in turret form or a widow who goes to places supports can’t heal her. Heck simple things like tanks disappearing around a corner and getting melted then claiming they weren’t being healed. Guess what bud, you weren’t because you went around a corner into the other team and out of sight of your supports.
Supports are easily the strongest role in the game. If they underperform, the tank cannot perform well. And dps are kind of accessories for both lmao.pport diff is usually the cause, but it’s also the least noticable considering it’s very easy to shove blame onto other roles, considering the nature of support.
Depends, if you shove your rifle up the tank and just pour endless heals into them you can get a heck of a lot of heals without any one really achieving anything.
Which is why I always thought OW needed more stats, better stats or just remove them. Things like “healing in” would be an amazing stat to know how much you got in a round.
That maybe you could see a more detailed screen after the match, as it be too distracting in the match. Also be great to see stats in replays.
Really now?
I would love this to be the case. From my perspective it’s always the Tank that everyone is blaming, even - or especially - if the DPS don’t want to make plays with him.
But lets be honest for a moment.
Although most times this is pure toxicity and venting at their finest, there are actually some cases were the diff is clear as day.
While playing a regular, normal game its impossible to say with certainty that the loss was anyones particular fault in some cases the bizzare behaviours of some players are blatantly obvious.
Examples might include: a Tank who doesn’t engage the objective and cowers behind his backline all the time; a Support who pockets one person and one person only, leaving he rest of his team to disengage all the time and run for health packs; a DPS who gets owned over and over because he forces a hero like Junkrat when half the enemy team is flying.
This is as much a part of the problem as being toxic. Refusing to do your role because you got scolded is not helping anyone win the game.
In Ranked this is unacceptable - you can report for abusive chat, but they can report you for not trying all the same.
If you can win the game without that persons help and you have others to Support, then fine. You are just adopting a different strategy for the rest of the match. But if you would just drop your role altogether because others might agree or ask you to swap that would be on you.
Best way to make them eat their words is try better and prove them wrong, not prove them right by refusing to function with the team.
I won´t let them down, just because one dps can´t control their emotions, or own up to their own mistakes.