Why Mercy Isn't Fun To Play | Video

I dont think mercy was ever fun, to begin with

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I happen to like both old and new Mercy.

Different strokes for different folks.

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Letting people have fun and do and say things they enjoy without harming others is not ā€˜cringeā€™

Iā€™m not being a moral puritan because I dislike people hurting others who are just having fun.

I see, and you get to determine all the rules, all you have to do is invoke ā€œ2018ā€ an voila! moral high ground. But itā€™s interesting when someone else evokes the magical ā€œ2018ā€ shield you ignore it.

My criticism and dislike of your original statement came from the fact of you judging someone elseā€™s post as ā€œcringeā€ and ā€œ2018ā€ as a licence to do so. Leave him be, because in 2018 we have a LOT of different kinds of people with different kinds of outlook, itā€™s no longer the early 1600ā€™s so the judgement of others based on some new ā€œprogressiveā€ dogma is a form of puritanical policing.

You are remembering wrong. She was the most picked hero in the game before the rework and pretty popular even in GM and with one of the highest winrates in the top tiers - http://www.omnicmeta.com/2017/09/overwatch-hero-meta-report-pc-september.html

In a forum where a ā€œsignatureā€ is actually just something actively written into a post, it doesnā€™t seem terribly out of line to discuss it as part of the post, especially when itā€™s used as a propaganda billboard (which granted is slightly less applicable now that the username and ā€œ#RevertMercyā€ are swapped).

I donā€™t share the opinion that Mercy isnā€™t fun. For me, sheā€™s by far the most fun character (or was, up until the last nerf).

I understand the nostalgia for old res. It was a really fun ult, and you got some awesome and memorable moments out of it that are hard for her to get now. When you play a dps or a tank, the moments you remember from your games are the big multiple kills that totally swing fights. When you played old Mercy, you remembered the resurrections. That was her time to be a hero.

Despite that, I donā€™t really miss mass res myself. What I like most about Mercy is her base kit. I love the flying, the dodging, the trickery, the constant monitoring, and moving, and planning, and prioritizing, and most of all - the healing. I want to be a highly mobile throughput healbot. Thatā€™s why I play Mercy. I donā€™t mind not having hero moments. I like being in the background, knowing that even though people might not notice it, Iā€™m keeping everything going.

Thatā€™s part of the reason Iā€™m not having fun anymore past the nerf. Sheā€™s gone from fun to frustrating. The Mercy experience is only fun when the healing component of it is effective. When you have to stay longer on targets so that they donā€™t die, then you have less time to fly about and less time to damage boost. Youā€™re mores stationary, and your apm goes down.

What makes it so much more frustrating, is that you canā€™t really keep people alive anymore. You can still heal the incidental damage, but when push comes to shove youā€™re losing your patients, and lost patients means lost fights, which mean lost games. Itā€™s a frustrating experience. Ana and Moira can put out so much more healing in terms of burst and aoe. They have a lot of options to keep people alive. Mercyā€™s beam used to be enough to hold the fort, but itā€™s just not anymore. Thereā€™s nothing more frustrating for a healer than to see their patients constantly die, knowing thereā€™s nothing you can do about it. Saving lives is why we play healers in the first place. I keep going back to her in games and thinking that this healer would be so much fun if she could do her job.

So, where do we go from here? First and foremost, she needs her 60 hps back. Sheā€™s just doesnā€™t work properly without it. The win rates show this very clearly, and itā€™s evidenced by peopleā€™s play experience. But it needs to be done in a way that doesnā€™t cause her to dominate the support roster again.

So, what can we give? Res on E comes to mind first. I donā€™t think any other ability in the game is this controversial, both with the players and the detractors of the character. I donā€™t know of any other character whose player base is actively campaigning to have one of their abilities removed. Itā€™s made her too powerful for a year, but itā€™s also feels bad to use right now. Itā€™s not a fun ability. Not for Mercy, and not for the opposing team. And it warps the way that the game is played whenever sheā€™s in it. Itā€™s been a millstone around Mercyā€™s neck, hogging up her power budget, while being actively disliked by a large portion of Mercy players.

There seems to be a lot of resistance from the community and the devs against returning mass res. I donā€™t think itā€™s ever coming back. So, that being the case, I think itā€™s time to let go of res entirely. It was a fun concept, but itā€™s time to let it go. The game can move past it. We can find something else to give her in its stead. Maybe some ability that helps her deal with burst damage. Titanium has an idea that I like. I also like the idea of a heal over time that can be placed on a character.

The second thing that should probably change is Valkyrie. I initially disliked this ultimate, but after evaluating it for a period of time Iā€™ve become convinced that itā€™s a good ult. It can often result in a 2-3 person swing in a fight. But it does go against a lot of what Mercy is. It adds aoe to a character that should be about single target healing. It takes away a lot of the fast paced decision making from a character that should be all about that. Personally, Iā€™d like to see it changed so that the chain beams are removed but the healing is buffed. Maybe the heal beam could heal for 90, and the damage beam could also heal for 30. That way, it would feel more engaging and more impactful, while also not negating her aoe weakness.

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Entirely false information. She was never played in any high level games because she was bad (with the exception of being played with pharah). Ana + lucio or Zen + lucio was the exclusively played supports in high ranked / professional play until the rework.

This is a suggestion that could be examined.
If you want to give your 2 cents to the rework proposed, hereā€™s the link to Titaniumā€™s thread :slightly_smiling_face:

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Nope. Read the link I provided in my previous post. It showed she was the third most picked hero in GM and the most picked in Masters according to the meta report from two weeks before the rework.

I guess I just imagined watching professional play and never seeing a Mercy ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

Where did I mention pros? Ladder and pro play are very different.

Can you actually come up with your own argument instead of linking Titaniumā€™s thread every post you come into?

We know their position. Thereā€™s no reason to continue to spam about it.

Excuse me ?

funny how you are still playing mercy in the background of the videoā€¦

Seems like everything surrounding Mercy is ā€œspamā€ to you. Just because people make arguments that you canā€™t rebuttal, doesnā€™t automatically make it ā€œspamā€ :wink:

Thatā€™s fine, different strokes for different folks. I respect that.
For me personally, I would like to see some sort of Mass rez incorporated as her ult again, with proper tweaks. But hey, weā€™ll have to agree to disagree on it. :blush:

~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls
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Not really.

Everything thatā€™s the same topic with identical ideas and no alternate viewpoints is spam to me.

Speaking of spam, Your account has been around forā€¦ 9 days? And youā€™ve gotā€¦ 9 posts?

Youā€™re a part of the problem.

I have 217+ posts. Not sure how that equates to spam, but hey you do you! Despite the fact that you are once again going off-topic in this thread and spamming yourself, keep that imagination strong! :blush:

~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls
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9 topics.

All about Mercy. None bring anything new to the discussion.

Also, 218 posts now about Mercy.

Here we go again.

Why should we care if this is just your interpretation of spam? Us normal people much rather prefer the definition Blizzard gave us.

Itā€™s Spam
This post is an advertisement, or vandalism. It is not useful or relevant to the current topic.

According to Blizzard, calling out people for false definitions of spam is spam since itā€™s not useful or relevant to the current topic. I find that funnyā€¦