I dont think mercy was ever fun, to begin with
I happen to like both old and new Mercy.
Different strokes for different folks.
Letting people have fun and do and say things they enjoy without harming others is not ācringeā
Iām not being a moral puritan because I dislike people hurting others who are just having fun.
I see, and you get to determine all the rules, all you have to do is invoke ā2018ā an voila! moral high ground. But itās interesting when someone else evokes the magical ā2018ā shield you ignore it.
My criticism and dislike of your original statement came from the fact of you judging someone elseās post as ācringeā and ā2018ā as a licence to do so. Leave him be, because in 2018 we have a LOT of different kinds of people with different kinds of outlook, itās no longer the early 1600ās so the judgement of others based on some new āprogressiveā dogma is a form of puritanical policing.
You are remembering wrong. She was the most picked hero in the game before the rework and pretty popular even in GM and with one of the highest winrates in the top tiers - http://www.omnicmeta.com/2017/09/overwatch-hero-meta-report-pc-september.html
In a forum where a āsignatureā is actually just something actively written into a post, it doesnāt seem terribly out of line to discuss it as part of the post, especially when itās used as a propaganda billboard (which granted is slightly less applicable now that the username and ā#RevertMercyā are swapped).
I donāt share the opinion that Mercy isnāt fun. For me, sheās by far the most fun character (or was, up until the last nerf).
I understand the nostalgia for old res. It was a really fun ult, and you got some awesome and memorable moments out of it that are hard for her to get now. When you play a dps or a tank, the moments you remember from your games are the big multiple kills that totally swing fights. When you played old Mercy, you remembered the resurrections. That was her time to be a hero.
Despite that, I donāt really miss mass res myself. What I like most about Mercy is her base kit. I love the flying, the dodging, the trickery, the constant monitoring, and moving, and planning, and prioritizing, and most of all - the healing. I want to be a highly mobile throughput healbot. Thatās why I play Mercy. I donāt mind not having hero moments. I like being in the background, knowing that even though people might not notice it, Iām keeping everything going.
Thatās part of the reason Iām not having fun anymore past the nerf. Sheās gone from fun to frustrating. The Mercy experience is only fun when the healing component of it is effective. When you have to stay longer on targets so that they donāt die, then you have less time to fly about and less time to damage boost. Youāre mores stationary, and your apm goes down.
What makes it so much more frustrating, is that you canāt really keep people alive anymore. You can still heal the incidental damage, but when push comes to shove youāre losing your patients, and lost patients means lost fights, which mean lost games. Itās a frustrating experience. Ana and Moira can put out so much more healing in terms of burst and aoe. They have a lot of options to keep people alive. Mercyās beam used to be enough to hold the fort, but itās just not anymore. Thereās nothing more frustrating for a healer than to see their patients constantly die, knowing thereās nothing you can do about it. Saving lives is why we play healers in the first place. I keep going back to her in games and thinking that this healer would be so much fun if she could do her job.
So, where do we go from here? First and foremost, she needs her 60 hps back. Sheās just doesnāt work properly without it. The win rates show this very clearly, and itās evidenced by peopleās play experience. But it needs to be done in a way that doesnāt cause her to dominate the support roster again.
So, what can we give? Res on E comes to mind first. I donāt think any other ability in the game is this controversial, both with the players and the detractors of the character. I donāt know of any other character whose player base is actively campaigning to have one of their abilities removed. Itās made her too powerful for a year, but itās also feels bad to use right now. Itās not a fun ability. Not for Mercy, and not for the opposing team. And it warps the way that the game is played whenever sheās in it. Itās been a millstone around Mercyās neck, hogging up her power budget, while being actively disliked by a large portion of Mercy players.
There seems to be a lot of resistance from the community and the devs against returning mass res. I donāt think itās ever coming back. So, that being the case, I think itās time to let go of res entirely. It was a fun concept, but itās time to let it go. The game can move past it. We can find something else to give her in its stead. Maybe some ability that helps her deal with burst damage. Titanium has an idea that I like. I also like the idea of a heal over time that can be placed on a character.
The second thing that should probably change is Valkyrie. I initially disliked this ultimate, but after evaluating it for a period of time Iāve become convinced that itās a good ult. It can often result in a 2-3 person swing in a fight. But it does go against a lot of what Mercy is. It adds aoe to a character that should be about single target healing. It takes away a lot of the fast paced decision making from a character that should be all about that. Personally, Iād like to see it changed so that the chain beams are removed but the healing is buffed. Maybe the heal beam could heal for 90, and the damage beam could also heal for 30. That way, it would feel more engaging and more impactful, while also not negating her aoe weakness.
Entirely false information. She was never played in any high level games because she was bad (with the exception of being played with pharah). Ana + lucio or Zen + lucio was the exclusively played supports in high ranked / professional play until the rework.
This is a suggestion that could be examined.
If you want to give your 2 cents to the rework proposed, hereās the link to Titaniumās thread
Nope. Read the link I provided in my previous post. It showed she was the third most picked hero in GM and the most picked in Masters according to the meta report from two weeks before the rework.
I guess I just imagined watching professional play and never seeing a Mercy ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
Where did I mention pros? Ladder and pro play are very different.
Can you actually come up with your own argument instead of linking Titaniumās thread every post you come into?
We know their position. Thereās no reason to continue to spam about it.
Excuse me ?
funny how you are still playing mercy in the background of the videoā¦
Seems like everything surrounding Mercy is āspamā to you. Just because people make arguments that you canāt rebuttal, doesnāt automatically make it āspamā
Thatās fine, different strokes for different folks. I respect that.
For me personally, I would like to see some sort of Mass rez incorporated as her ult again, with proper tweaks. But hey, weāll have to agree to disagree on it.
~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls
Not really.
Everything thatās the same topic with identical ideas and no alternate viewpoints is spam to me.
Speaking of spam, Your account has been around forā¦ 9 days? And youāve gotā¦ 9 posts?
Youāre a part of the problem.
I have 217+ posts. Not sure how that equates to spam, but hey you do you! Despite the fact that you are once again going off-topic in this thread and spamming yourself, keep that imagination strong!
~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls
9 topics.
All about Mercy. None bring anything new to the discussion.
Also, 218 posts now about Mercy.
Here we go again.
Why should we care if this is just your interpretation of spam? Us normal people much rather prefer the definition Blizzard gave us.
Itās Spam
This post is an advertisement, or vandalism. It is not useful or relevant to the current topic.
According to Blizzard, calling out people for false definitions of spam is spam since itās not useful or relevant to the current topic. I find that funnyā¦