Why Mercy Isn't Fun To Play | Video


#291

I see, and you get to determine all the rules, all you have to do is invoke “2018” an voila! moral high ground. But it’s interesting when someone else evokes the magical “2018” shield you ignore it.

My criticism and dislike of your original statement came from the fact of you judging someone else’s post as “cringe” and “2018” as a licence to do so. Leave him be, because in 2018 we have a LOT of different kinds of people with different kinds of outlook, it’s no longer the early 1600’s so the judgement of others based on some new “progressive” dogma is a form of puritanical policing.


#292

You are remembering wrong. She was the most picked hero in the game before the rework and pretty popular even in GM and with one of the highest winrates in the top tiers - http://www.omnicmeta.com/2017/09/overwatch-hero-meta-report-pc-september.html


#293

In a forum where a “signature” is actually just something actively written into a post, it doesn’t seem terribly out of line to discuss it as part of the post, especially when it’s used as a propaganda billboard (which granted is slightly less applicable now that the username and “#RevertMercy” are swapped).


#294

I don’t share the opinion that Mercy isn’t fun. For me, she’s by far the most fun character (or was, up until the last nerf).

I understand the nostalgia for old res. It was a really fun ult, and you got some awesome and memorable moments out of it that are hard for her to get now. When you play a dps or a tank, the moments you remember from your games are the big multiple kills that totally swing fights. When you played old Mercy, you remembered the resurrections. That was her time to be a hero.

Despite that, I don’t really miss mass res myself. What I like most about Mercy is her base kit. I love the flying, the dodging, the trickery, the constant monitoring, and moving, and planning, and prioritizing, and most of all - the healing. I want to be a highly mobile throughput healbot. That’s why I play Mercy. I don’t mind not having hero moments. I like being in the background, knowing that even though people might not notice it, I’m keeping everything going.

That’s part of the reason I’m not having fun anymore past the nerf. She’s gone from fun to frustrating. The Mercy experience is only fun when the healing component of it is effective. When you have to stay longer on targets so that they don’t die, then you have less time to fly about and less time to damage boost. You’re mores stationary, and your apm goes down.

What makes it so much more frustrating, is that you can’t really keep people alive anymore. You can still heal the incidental damage, but when push comes to shove you’re losing your patients, and lost patients means lost fights, which mean lost games. It’s a frustrating experience. Ana and Moira can put out so much more healing in terms of burst and aoe. They have a lot of options to keep people alive. Mercy’s beam used to be enough to hold the fort, but it’s just not anymore. There’s nothing more frustrating for a healer than to see their patients constantly die, knowing there’s nothing you can do about it. Saving lives is why we play healers in the first place. I keep going back to her in games and thinking that this healer would be so much fun if she could do her job.

So, where do we go from here? First and foremost, she needs her 60 hps back. She’s just doesn’t work properly without it. The win rates show this very clearly, and it’s evidenced by people’s play experience. But it needs to be done in a way that doesn’t cause her to dominate the support roster again.

So, what can we give? Res on E comes to mind first. I don’t think any other ability in the game is this controversial, both with the players and the detractors of the character. I don’t know of any other character whose player base is actively campaigning to have one of their abilities removed. It’s made her too powerful for a year, but it’s also feels bad to use right now. It’s not a fun ability. Not for Mercy, and not for the opposing team. And it warps the way that the game is played whenever she’s in it. It’s been a millstone around Mercy’s neck, hogging up her power budget, while being actively disliked by a large portion of Mercy players.

There seems to be a lot of resistance from the community and the devs against returning mass res. I don’t think it’s ever coming back. So, that being the case, I think it’s time to let go of res entirely. It was a fun concept, but it’s time to let it go. The game can move past it. We can find something else to give her in its stead. Maybe some ability that helps her deal with burst damage. Titanium has an idea that I like. I also like the idea of a heal over time that can be placed on a character.

The second thing that should probably change is Valkyrie. I initially disliked this ultimate, but after evaluating it for a period of time I’ve become convinced that it’s a good ult. It can often result in a 2-3 person swing in a fight. But it does go against a lot of what Mercy is. It adds aoe to a character that should be about single target healing. It takes away a lot of the fast paced decision making from a character that should be all about that. Personally, I’d like to see it changed so that the chain beams are removed but the healing is buffed. Maybe the heal beam could heal for 90, and the damage beam could also heal for 30. That way, it would feel more engaging and more impactful, while also not negating her aoe weakness.


#295

Entirely false information. She was never played in any high level games because she was bad (with the exception of being played with pharah). Ana + lucio or Zen + lucio was the exclusively played supports in high ranked / professional play until the rework.


#296

This is a suggestion that could be examined.
If you want to give your 2 cents to the rework proposed, here’s the link to Titanium’s thread :slightly_smiling_face:


#297

Nope. Read the link I provided in my previous post. It showed she was the third most picked hero in GM and the most picked in Masters according to the meta report from two weeks before the rework.


#298

I guess I just imagined watching professional play and never seeing a Mercy ¯_(ツ)_/¯


#299

Where did I mention pros? Ladder and pro play are very different.


#300

Can you actually come up with your own argument instead of linking Titanium’s thread every post you come into?

We know their position. There’s no reason to continue to spam about it.


#301

Excuse me ?


#302

funny how you are still playing mercy in the background of the video…


#303

Seems like everything surrounding Mercy is “spam” to you. Just because people make arguments that you can’t rebuttal, doesn’t automatically make it “spam” :wink:

That’s fine, different strokes for different folks. I respect that.
For me personally, I would like to see some sort of Mass rez incorporated as her ult again, with proper tweaks. But hey, we’ll have to agree to disagree on it. :blush:

~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls
:blue_heart:


#304

Not really.

Everything that’s the same topic with identical ideas and no alternate viewpoints is spam to me.

Speaking of spam, Your account has been around for… 9 days? And you’ve got… 9 posts?

You’re a part of the problem.


#305

I have 217+ posts. Not sure how that equates to spam, but hey you do you! Despite the fact that you are once again going off-topic in this thread and spamming yourself, keep that imagination strong! :blush:

~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls
:blue_heart:


#306

9 topics.

All about Mercy. None bring anything new to the discussion.

Also, 218 posts now about Mercy.

Here we go again.


#307

Why should we care if this is just your interpretation of spam? Us normal people much rather prefer the definition Blizzard gave us.

It’s Spam
This post is an advertisement, or vandalism. It is not useful or relevant to the current topic.

According to Blizzard, calling out people for false definitions of spam is spam since it’s not useful or relevant to the current topic. I find that funny…


#308

Here we go again.

This is fun. Please tell me more about how you’re 100% correct in all cases.


#309

Do tell me more about how you always seem to bring up irrelevant arguments when proven wrong. :thinking:

Your victim complex is intriguing.


#310

You are mistaken,

There can be a million threads about Mercy. It doesn’t make it spam. That is a broad generalization.

Derailing topics however, are spam. Something you have been doing quite often in various threads. :slight_smile:

Also, your interpretation to any Mercy thread is seemingly spam, based on your previous posts, and you have even went as far as to say that those Mercy mains “act like a cult”.

So, based on your past tendency to make extremely toxic generalizations like those, I’m not sure if I pr anyone else should take your opinions seriously.

~Sincerely Yours xoxo,
a Lover of True, Fair, and Fun Balance.
xavvypls
:blue_heart: