Why Mercy is an issue in OW2 (the civil version)

Talking about Mercy has devolved into plain insults and hateful comments. I am not a huge Mercy fan, but it’s still pretty messed up to resort to homophobia to express a dislike towards a certain hero. What ends up happening is just a mess of flagging and pointing fingers. So, let’s talk about Mercy - not the players, not stereotypes - only the balance of the hero. This is what I personally think as a masters player.

  1. Mobility
  • borderline broken, you could easily make the case that it’s the best in the game
  • the requirements to pull it off are not comparable to the requirements to shut it down

However, I don’t think it’s will be primary issue once Sojourn gets nerfed. Currently, it’s problematic as it’s practically impossible to shut down a pocketed Sojourn due to how Mercy can keep up with Sojourn while remaining extremely difficult to pin down. Once Sojourn gets nerfed, we can open the debate about movement.

  1. Damage Boost
  • incredibly powerful
  • takes very little input from the mercy player
  • the infinite duration with no resource management makes pocketing a massive problem.

Even in OW1, it was still one of the most problematic abilities in the game. Any time a DPS goes past a certain threshold of power, Mercy’s Damage Boost makes that hero a god. DPS is, like it or not, the least impactful role in the game and it always has been (above plat). It is silly to practically gate-keep an already weak role below a certain power level to prevent a Sojourn from happening. I think changes should be made to discourage a “pocket” play style, such as adding some form of resource management or a passive decay when you stay on a single person for long enough.

  1. Resurrect
  • Incredibly problematic when combined with Valk
  • The single most frustrating ability in the game (this one is just an opinion)

Spending 15 minutes killing an Orisa just for Mercy to swoop in like a moth on a special white substance and bring her back from the dead is just horrible. How much health you come back with should differ between roles. Making tanks come back at 75 or 50 percent health would be much more fair to play against.

And that’s about it.

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Lol, they’re still going to flag you. It was never about civility. :rofl:

I agree with everything you said though. Res time is part of the issue. It is SO FAST and doesn’t require LOS. I don’t think the intention was for it to work, mid fight, just flying into the middle of the fight and pull it off like nothing was happening.

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nope mercy is ok as is

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Why is Mercy an issue?

She is not.

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They won’t accept the fact that Mercy is overturned. Everyone but Mercy mains knows it, her mobility is broken, damage boost is broken and holds other characters “hostage” and rez has no place in this game anymore.
But don’t you dare speak about it, they’ll all flock to your thread and flag every post in it and then proceed to cry about “the hate” Mercy players are receiving.

Mercy is a big problem for the game currently and she needs nerfs.

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Moth attack incoming get down

My 2 cents, the rez is debatable whether it should be removed/nerfed to the ground or not, but the mobility is a problem

and her DamageBoost (short DB) is also a big problem, not only gives it the “uwu carry me daddy while I hold right click like a brave girl” vibe, it also ruins balancing DPS characters perse. I’d remove it and give her a skillshot (yes you read right), called “Injection Shot” where she fires a big syringe (Heals over time when hitting an ally / Damage over time when hitting an enemy).

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Never hurts to see if they were actually saying the truth.

Thank you for your well supported compelling argument.

Idk, it’s almost like I went through everything problematic about her.

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Every character definitely ranges between actual effort & brain power required to perform usefully, even the 1 star difficulty heroes.(Are there even still 1-3 difficulty ratings?):family_woman_woman_boy_boy::family_woman_woman_girl_boy::family_man_woman_girl_boy::family_man_woman_girl_girl:

And then you got mercy down here 🫳🏻
:blonde_woman:t3:

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I think the conversations will be useful if and only if Mercy says meta after Sojourn leaves the meta.

Otherwise you are basically pointing at everything at her kit, and saying “this is too strong” to a hero which won’t even be strong at any rank.

And you know what? That isn’t balancing.

And that is why the conversation is a difficult one, because we should be trying to balance heroes.

Well, if she falls from meta with Sojourn, then that is a pretty compelling argument.

If she drops from meta, you have all of the proof right there.

If she doesn’t? Then I’ll be there calling for nerfs, but I honestly don’t think she is stay once Sojourn leaves.

I’d like your thoughts, IF she drops from meta when Sojourn is nerfed, what will your feelings on her balance be then?

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  1. Its still spam at this point
  2. You just listed her abilities (you can do that with every hero)
  3. Mercy is not the problem, Soj still is

There is nothing much to add. Another “nerf Mercy” post, that does not do anything else than the other threads.

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Rework time :smirk::smirk:

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My arguments for Rez and Damage Boost apply even without Sojourn. Whether it’s Sojourn being pocketed or some random histcan, her kit remains extremely unhealthy.

Either don’t flag inappropriate posts, or deal with appropriate ones.

Try doing the same with a hero like Moira. You can’t. Moira has obvious drawbacks, Mercy does not.

Love the evidence here.

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But then you will have an extremely underpowered hero. So, you would have to put that power right on back.

Rez and Boost is how she gets all of her value in high ranks.

How she is meant to get value?

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That’s what he’s saying…
She needs a rework.

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I am just laying the groundwork for that, because I don’t think there is a rework which would make them happy.

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Why should the game be held hostage because of one group?

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Guess I’ll just copy/paste this stuff over here.

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Make who happy???

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OP, they are having this conversation.

This isn’t saying it is me pointing at OP, but I honestly don’t think they can rework her, without her being more of a problem.

This is likely her at her least problematic.

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