To elaborate, orisa is meta by default, she is the tankiest tank. They buffed all of the tank counters to fight goats, and now the other tanks can’t survive. But With Winston you can outplay all of the other ones, reaper doom junk, but you can’t outplay mei
Talk about having a poor understanding of the game.
Orisa/Sigma are played because they can both tank a ton of damage and do a ton of damage, not because “if we don’t play two shields then sniper’s fantastic shield breaking dps will wreck us.”
Talk about having a poor understanding of the game.
It’s not that snipers have enough shieldbreak to require two shields, it’s that they can one shot 2/3 of the team if you don’t shut them down with shields.
One shield is enough to stop them…
You don’t need 2 layers of shields to stop a sniper.
Imagine if Widow and Hanzo were completely removed from the game.
They’re not being played now, and Orisa/Sigma is the meta. How will that change when 2 heroes that aren’t even part of the meta disappear?
How is Sigma/Orisa suddenly going to be weak when 2 irrelevant heroes are gone?
Because a Hamster Meta (or Space Invaders if you add Winston) can’t be viable because of Mei and Reaper (Sombra, Bastion etc) tearing them down. Heck D.Va isn’t threatening as a tank.
Hence the stronger tanks are used. Like when Goat’s was a thing Orisa was trash.
What the tank pool needs is more competition (more tank characters) and viable options.
That’s why you can’t exactly make Orisa/Sigma terrible. Because outside of double barrier they’d be trash. Forcing more dependency on each other, that of itself is an issue.
Literally after Dive died off the meta was Grav Dragon, and then Double Sniper when they nerfed Mercy boosting Dragon strike
Literally Goats was MADE because the meta at the time was Double Sniper; and the contenders team built the original 3 tank 3 support in RESPONSE to the Double Sniper meta
Uhhh, what is this comment? Every time you destroy a barrier, another one appears. By time you’ve numbed your brain shooting 2 red objects, you have such a small window before more shields are dumped in your face. That is NOT the definition of fun, especially not in an FPS game. There’s no way you actually think that’s fun, right?
What was the meta at Overwatch World Cup in 2018 (when dive was dead)? Not snipers.
At the end of OWL season 1 dual sniper was played but it never stuck as a meta or we would have seen that in OWWC’18. At the end of OWL Season 2 we saw double shield and again in OWWC’19. That’s what you call meta.
When people like you refuse to shoot the barriers, they take less damage because it means that one person less is addressing their mechanics in favor of “fragging out” (which you then don’t because you’re not as good as you think you are…and because, you know…barriers).
Barriers are a DPS check mechanic. Either you have the DPS to get past them and kill the enemy team, or you don’t. When you refuse to shoot the barriers, your team fails the check and you lose.
Shoot the damn barriers.
…if someone on the enemy team derps in front of his tanks’ barriers, by all means end them. But until someone screws up, play the mechanic.
And yes, there’s fun to be had there. Watching enemy barriers break and the enemy team start to panic because they know they’re about to die is all kinds of fun.
Not once there did I say I refuse to shoot barriers. I just don’t think it’s fun.
There are literally only a handful of heroes that can do good damage to barriers, either that, or you go through them. But, most heroes that can flank etc, are squishy, and countered by most heroes in this meta. The solution? Pick doomfist, or reaper. Doom goes through barriers, has so much burst damage, and high sustain. Reaper does good barrier damage, has the potential to flank, and has high sustain. Alternatively you pick someone like mei to split the team to effectively reduce the number of barriers, especially if sigma gets split.
Team comps like this just reduce the number of heroes you can viably play into it. That’s why we mirror double shield, to beat double shield.
You are the first person I’ve seen who actually likes shooting barriers…