Why I Have Yet to Not Despise Mercy's Current State

[Megadodo-11847]

“I want to rez the most number of people!” I’m sorry, but that is impossible to believe unless they were supposedly called out on it. I never explained my mass rezzes, and I had my fair share of x4 when it was necessary.

impossible…and yet, I witnessed it occur.

Many times

[WildElements-1760]

And I never did. So who should I believe?

[Silawatsi-1430]

You’ve gone over this aready, mega.

[Megadodo-11847]

I’m saying I want numbers to back up their claims. Why waste a bunch of time, money, and resources on something that was scarcely an issue.

They made the effort and spent the money/resources (not a small thing, mind you) to get mass rez out of the game, so I conclude they must have had a convincing set of reasons to do so. The reasons they then presented with the release more or less coincide with what I have described here

[Silawatsi-1430]

There’s a strong argument that absence of mass rez has done much more harm than good.

[N7Warrior-1327]

I think it’s still an issue of Sr. If Mercy got punished with a loss of 100 Sr, that strat would have died

@N7Warrior-1327

If the issue is hide and rez, then hide and rez should have been PUNISHED. the Sr exploit was and IS dumb. Mercy never should have had a point where she gained Sr for a loss. But that’s a problem with rewarding only the rez mechanic. If Mercy had been punished appropriately, it would have died as the strat was causing a lower Sr.

They could have looked at ratios or something but they didn’t. Rez to healing ratio, rez to time, rez to mercy deaths, rez to team death, res to healing to team deaths but it never was

A mercy with 15 rezzes to 9000 healing and a loss should have been punished for her only 3 presses of her ult. This could have contrasted to a mercy who won with 8 rezzes, 15,000 healing, and 6 presses of her ult. Yes, this Mercy rezzed less numbers but it wasn’t all mass rez , she has a higher healing stat so she was i. The fight longer, and she used her ult more often which means she earned it more often

But that was never attempted nor looked at and mercy can still get away with only rezzing to boost her stats versus impact rezzes so the problem is still there.

The rez stat shouldnt be prioritized soooooo high with Mercy. Sombra never gaind Sr for hacks off even when she lost because her hack is only one part of her sr value. Same with McCree and stuns etc. But it still is valued high which is why you can still boost your stats with rez
But a mercy who never has so rez or has to rez less is doing well. Why is she being kinda punished because she didn’t boost the rez stat?

If they punished mass rez for hide n rez, it would have died

[Megadodo-11847]

Have you read the earlier posts describing mass rez as Mercy’s only backup when there’s too much damage for her base heals to handle?

Thats not the scenario I encountered in any of the many cases I witnessed

[Cleopatra-21937]

They made the effort and spent the money/resources (not a small thing, mind you) to get mass rez out of the game, so I conclude they must have had a convincing set of reasons to do so. The reasons they then presented with the release more or less coincide with what I have described here

It’s my guess, mostly, but I believe main reason was OWL. Since a) Mercy wasn’t very suitable for dive back there, and b) mass resurrect could ruin great moments of DPS, which were followed by camera at that time.

[Megadodo-11847]

I think for most players - and this is opinion, to be clear - dont care whats on the card, only rather if they get a card or dont get a card

It’s always nice to get rare card. Until receiving card for resurrects I had no idea it existed.

I understand that to be the case for you

In my opinion, I dont think that is the case for most players - a card is better than no card, and thats it

[WildElements-1760]

My company is wasting an exorbitant amount of time, resources, money on something that is completely incompatible with how the branch I work in operates for every department in this branch. Excuse me for not believing that you should continue on a path that is ridden with nothing but frustration on all sides because people failed to actually understand the problems! Also, if they are so confident in their decision, send me the numbers. I would be more than happy to analyze them.

[Megadodo-11847]

They made the effort and spent the money/resources (not a small thing, mind you) to get mass rez out of the game, so I conclude they must have had a convincing set of reasons to do so. The reasons they then presented with the release more or less coincide with what I have described here

It’s my guess, mostly, but I believe main reason was OWL. Since a) Mercy wasn’t very suitable for dive back there, and b) mass resurrect could ruin great moments of DPS, which were followed by camera at that time.

I stand by my conclusion, particularly since it is supported by the dev video that explained the problem and the resulting change

[Megadodo-11847]

There’s a strong argument that absence of mass rez has done much more harm than good.

I have heard of no arguments that I would call strong in favor of mass rez

[WildElements-1760]

And what if Mercy got a lot of healing done even with bigger rezzes?

[Cleopatra-21937]

I stand by my conclusion, particularly since it is supported by the dev video that explained the problem and the resulting change

Judging by results of resulting change, devs clearly didn’t think it through. Almost like had to rush that change, for some reason, which wasn’t related to balance.

[WildElements-1760]

It’s one I faced many times. And you know what? I do this in OTHER games too.

[Megadodo-11847]

if they are so confident in their decision, send me the numbers. I would be more than happy to analyze them.

I am near certain the only information we will be provided on this matter has already been provided.

[WildElements-1760]

Ya think? I doubt they even have numerical evidence anyway.

[Megadodo-11847]

I stand by my conclusion, particularly since it is supported by the dev video that explained the problem and the resulting change

Judging by results of resulting change, devs clearly didn’t think it through. Almost like had to rush that change, for some reason, which wasn’t related to balance.

They did indeed rush the change, and as a result, spent a lot of time afterwards applying mostly nerfs. Forum Mercy mains are fond of pointing out the number.

I look at it a different way - the fact that they rushed it means they had a fairly overwhelming concern with the state of the character at that time

[Megadodo-11847]

Ya think? I doubt they even have numerical evidence anyway.

Based on what happened and how it happened, I think they had (have) overwhelming evidence/reasons.

Is some of it numerical?

No idea.

[N7Warrior-1327]

I think it still shows that it wasn’t thought well. I don’t see why tweaks aren’t viable to the devs as opposed to entire reworks. Fix what’s wrong with mass rez, don’t throw it in the trash. Or at least try