Why forced 2-2-2 when

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You could easily fix the game and meta by having a ban system. Allow the teams to decide which heroes are too strong for any given match.

Sure, some players will get trolled, like a top 500 Junkrat only player, or a OWL pro that specializes on Zenyatta. But for the other 98% of the game, we could ban out the heroes that face roll through competitive games.

This also reducing the impact of the god awful meta that always pops up… Sniper Meta (gone), Bunker Comp (Gone), Goats (gone).

And you did it without having to change queue times, or force anyone to pick a certain hero to fill out a 2-2-2.

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Sounds good on paper, until that one-trick Sombra on your team is stuck playing a hero they have never played before

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Ok, because the one trick isn’t a bigger problem in the first place? Seems to me, that one trick is gonna have to learn another hero, and guess what, now the rest of the time doesn’t have to completely play around someone that refuses to switch, even when completely countered.

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It is a problem, but not one that can easily be addressed. There’s a lot more one tricks in the game than people realize, especially in GM/Top 500

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I mean, most other hero type competitive games have a ban system. It’s actually a very easy problem to fix, you’re just choosing to believe the devs when they say it isn’t.

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Most other games also have more than 30 heroes.

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Also those games don’t have character switching midgame.

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We are looking at 4+ years of only tank and support heroes being added to the game before those roles are big enough to tolerate a ban system.

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Well, if they really needed to, they could make a ban system right now.
But you’d need to make Rein/Orisa/Winston be unbannable, so that you maintain DeathBall/Bunker/Dive, regardless of the bans.

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Well, that’s an easy fix.

✅ [RoleQ] MatchMakered vs UnlockedQ

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Disagree entirely. With two bans, if Rein and Orisa get banned, you’d still have d’va, winston, roadhog If Anna and Mercy got banned, you’d still have Lucio, Moira, Bap, “Brig”.

Get a map that is bunker comp favored, just ban Bastion or Orisa. In a lower rank and Reaper is ruining your games, ban him.

There are plenty of felxable uses for a Ban system… Also 30 heroes is a lot.

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The point of a ban system is more gameplay variety, not less gameplay variety.

Banning entire strategies would defeat the purpose.

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Or make it so we didn’t have to watch the exact same heroes in every single OWL match… every single time.

Also so bunker comp on 2cp isn’t ruining your games when you’re in a rank that struggles to deal with it.

Your arguments are really very much missing the point of why it’s important to have a mechanism to make the meta fluid.

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Well that’s dead simple. Just disallow more than 2 Healers per team.

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Equivalent statement: Widowmaker is deleted from the game.

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people saying it would hurt 1 tricks like its a bad thing. good force them to learn to play more characters.

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well then literally everyone suddenly has a private profile, so whats the point in having a profile anymore. then those 1tricks get their hero banned and they start inting.

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Does ban system mean you have role based SR?

Does ban system mean your supports / tanks are people who actually queued up for that role rather than a DPS forced to do it (badly?)

That ISN’T what roleQ does - currently, people are forced to take roles they don’t want to get a reasonable team comp.

roleQ ends that.

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This game just doesn’t have enough hero’s right now for hero bans. And the devs are so slow to release new content because they are busy fixing all the mistakes they make

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Imho on ladder a ban system is close to a coinflip.

It can land on the 1 hero you actually need.
And on the 1 hero your enemies needed to counter your comp.

For tournaments, i see it as a great addition.