Why Don't People Want Bastion Viable? 🤔

[DrClan-1789]

Bastion sentry should not be touched or it will be like the old days with bation OP bastion OP thread after thread.

It does not matter what people say, it matters what is fact.

[Dysvalence-1915]

That is why he is ment to hold ground, not take it.

I don’t want a meta based around static entrenchment. That favors the defense, results in more draws, discourages engagements, and makes the game revolve around ults more than it should.

The game is balanced between attack and defense by nearly always favoring the aggressor to compensate for the positional advantages of the defense, which evens things out since the defense can preemptively engage or counterengage. Balancing a character to be viable while being good at holding ground yet being unable to take ground is dangerous for the overall balance of the game.

They’d have to be actively moving around to avoid being killed by him, which creates a huge shift in how tanks are used to playing this game. And as we know, people don’t like having to adjust how they play the game.

There wouldn’t be any shift at all. Tanks still have to get on the point and allow the DPS to get into position; they’d just die faster.

[ZenTears-1135]

It does not matter you say? Ok so what happened to 35% IC?

After all doesn’t matter what people say…

[Colt-2370]

Yes, 200 ammo with headshots and 150 armor upon activation with tank.

Honestly I cant even remember why they removed headshots in the first place, anyone remembers why?

[ChibiFox-11511]

It does not matter you say? Ok so what happened to 35% IC?

After all doesn’t matter what people say…

It stacked damage resistance… did it not?
(Or something along those lines…)

The problem was it’s interaction with Ana’s Ult… And the fact that Bastion lost Dps to gain it.

[DrClan-1789]

His current transformation time makes him decent on attack, but still better suited to deffense.

By choosing Bastion you make a trade of damage in exchange for mobility. A concept that will always and should always be better at defending.

[DrClan-1789]

Yes, and the facts there was that 35% was broken for sentry.

[ChibiFox-11511]

By choosing Bastion you make a trade of damage in exchange for mobility. A concept that will always and should always be better at defending.

F-ING PREACH.

Bastion should NOT EVER Be reworked into some Hanzo reject, hopping around and “Dealing ok damage”

[Dysvalence-1915]

And the fact that he is better on defense than attack is exactly why he hasn’t been buffed into viability. Same with Torb and pre rework Sym.

[ChibiFox-11511]

@Dysvalence-1915

And the fact that he is better on defense than attack is exactly why he hasn’t been buffed into viability. Same with Torb and pre rework Sym.

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[DrClan-1789]

Torbjorn and Symmerta have a unique issue of having automated damage, something Bastion lacks, which is why they are/were hard to buff.

[DrClan-1789]

I’m starting to get the desire to help write our next OP for when we hit 20k posts on the megathread(I hear that is the cap now days).

Can I do that?

[Zence-1613]

20k is the max now? Shame.

[ChibiFox-11511]

Can I do that?

You would only be doing us a great service.

[Musica-2488]

ITT:

Bastion mains HighFivin’ each other while the rest explains them the real reasons.

TARNATION CONSPIRACIES! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[DrClan-1789]

Alright, I will get to work on some ideas one of these days. I’m not writing that on mobile and I want it to be approved by everyone on the current thread.

[Willustrate-1913]

I’ve been finding Bastion to be one of the best answers against enemy comps that run Brigette, and I’m theorize running him with a good Symmetra can open doors to many shenanigans if done right.

In fact, if Symmetra puts down her photon barrier in the right position, Bastion can activate his tank mode and move along the length of the barrier as he fires cannonballs towards the enemy on the other side of it.

I would also run Orisa so she can give Bastion a shield wherever he’s positioned, and then run Rein to be Orisa’s shield. Get a Lucio for speed boost, and then either Brigette or a main healer of your choice.

[Silawatsi-1430]

Okay. That covers the hero-specific counters. What about team tactics?

[ChibiFox-11511]

Okay. That covers the hero-specific counters. What about team tactics?

Well, he’s already the most heavily focused hero out of them ALL.

[DrClan-1789]

For or against?

Btw you can ask these in the Bastion megathread if you want more than just Chibi and my opinions.