Why does individual player skill have such a small contribution?

Matchmaking in this game is horrendous.

When you are a healer and consistently getting gold in 4/5 categories and STILL lose, you know you are playing directly into Blizzard’s plan, which is to get you to buy another account and start over.

Paragon resolved this by simply buying the game once and allowing players to create new accounts with an e-mail address.

You constantly see in the forums “Just keep playing and you’ll go higher in ranking”, but it’s the complete opposite! You can only carry so much. Not sure what else you can do at this point.
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That is really low healing :confused: Especially since 1/3rd of it is self healing.
you might as well just play dps.

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Post a recording of full games you play, because there’s something fundamental you’re doing wrong (likely you’re more focused on doing damage than keeping teammates alive) but we can’t be 100% sure unless you have video

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You’re playing Moira in low silver, you are most certainly trolling if you don’t get gold elimination, but not damage it means nothings. If you’re stuck in Silver, that’s on you, not your teammates.

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This is not true. You will not rank up by just continuing to play and it’s not all on your teammates. You have to realize what the flaws at your rank are and eliminate them in your gameplay.
You will not improve by running into the same brick wall over and over, or ignoring the wall.

You are at your rank because you have bad habits that people above you don’t have and you lack skills or knowledge that they don’t. Masters players don’t play like plat players and plat players don’t play like silvers, but for some reason Silvers think their teammates are the only thing keeping them out of plat and plats think their teammates are the only reason that they aren’t in masters.

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Honestly the most discouraging thing I experienced in my games yesterday was stomping (and I mean we ran through the map on Gibraltar without a single regroup, and they barely made it to the first checkpoint in over time, after we spawn camped them for 3 minutes and werent able to move past that) a game against a 3 stack, I was in a duo and me on Winston and my friend on Genji just murdered everything with ana and zen keeping us up from the cart. Then we got the same 3 stack we just destroyed on our team the next game.
Those are honestly moments when you truly start to question the 50-50 forced win rate theories might be right.

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The point I believe a lot of people miss is that you are only 1/12th of the equation. So in the grand scheme of things, your individual quality of play has very little outcome on the end result of your SR, as you only contribute to 8.3% of the result.

I don’t mean to say that I belong in a hire tier (does anybody, though?) since it is a function of the luck of the teammates and opponents you have had, and not individual player skill.

Before you claim to consistently get gold in 4/5 categories, you should hide your profile.

I’m curious as to what you think the other 9/10ths of the equation are.

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what if instead of only counting touchdowns in a football game, they also counted total yards to determine the winner. Like a touch down would be worth 6 points and 10 yards would be worth 1 point.

It could work, it’s just not how team sports are played.

Why does individual player skill have such a small contribution?

There are 12 players in the match. If all twelve belong there, they only contribute 8.3% each. Only massively misranked people (or people that are playing very different than their typical skill level) can force the game to be won or lost.

The way for a normal player to overcome this is to play moderately better than their rank, and play enough games to overcome random factors.

See Bronze - Sliver - Gold ranking guide for more.

The most important medals are damage and healing. Elims are pointless when you’re on Moira, you throw an orb and you get like 3 elims just for the orb slurping the people about to die on its way past.
In the screenshot you’ve provided, you don’t even have bronze damage, and you’ve only done 3k healing, which is atrocious when you’re playing Moira and its 8 MINUTES INTO THE MATCH.

Sorry sweetie. That’s not a carry. :woman_shrugging:

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im sorry but medals dont mean carrying

if you cant uprank you need to improve gamesense and decisionmaking.

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Typical statement from someone who thinks they belong higher than they really do.
If you’re to lazy to actual improve then don’t expect to climb.

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I’m not looking to climb. I could care less about the elo.

But you are (wrongfully) assuming that because someone does not believe your dogma, that they must be wrong.

Help us understand, master @AeroCrypt, what is the secret to climbing?

With the understanding that you are only 1/12th of the puzzle, does your skill really have much influence on the match? Or are your wins a product of the luck of the team draft?

Teamwork is a skill, and a very important one at that. Apparently, you don’t care about that part of the overall skill equation.

As someone who has shared your experiences, I’d advise you play a few more hero’s and choose someone other than Moira, or DVa. Maybe DPS if you have a decent aim. Both those hero’s are easy to be selfish with, and teamwork is what’s required as someone mentioned.

I’m comfortable with teamwork. What I find a lot of people to be uncomfortable with, and particularly those in the higher ranks, is admitting that the overwhelming factor in their success is not actually their skill (of which only contributes a minuscule part to the entire match), but instead on their luck. The luck that, over a long enough stretch of time, they have been paired with teammates who were better than their opponents. That is, the other 91.7% of the equation.

If you put a GM DPS in Bronze their win rate will be over 90% because even in those games you lose when someone leaves or throws they can still win because 1 GM DPS is worth at least 3 bronze DPSs.

If you keep calling it luck an don’t own up to the your personal shortcomings you will not climb. There are plenty of resources online to help you improve, but none of those will help if you think all of this is luck and it’s not that you are worse at the game than the people at higher ranks than you.

Show me a GM going back to bronze on account, and then immediately rising to GM.

I’ll wait.

It’s difficult to admit that we aren’t all talented, and that luck has a larger role. I understand.

But again, you can consistently get gold in heals, objective, damage dealt, AND kills, and still not climb. You are at the whim of the other 9 people around you.

But what GM would ever want to admit that luck got them to where they are? None.

I climbed from Bronze to Gold. Not difficult. And it took me 2 seasons, so I’m not lucky. 2 seasons is how long it took for my skill to shine through.
Kabaji started doing an unranked to T500 stream on YT, flexing only he got to diamond. Still going. Look up kabaji unranked to t500 flex only.

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