As someone said on here before, when Blizz listen to the forums… and it’s not often that they do… they’re like the evil genie that twists your wishes into nightmares.
Tracer needs counter play, becomes a character that effortlessly shuts down all CQC.
Rework scatter, becomes super storm arrow shimada sniper.
Mercy rezzed muh teamkill, becomes the moth of the undying.
They never fail to use a sledgehammer to do a scalpel’s job.
If they were being realistic they would’ve admitted that the rework was a mistake and revert her back to 1.0 when she was actually balanced.
If I recall, a few major youtubers put out videos detailing exactly how invulnerable a nano-boosted Bastion was. That to date is the only thing that the devs have shoved to live without a fix that makes me question their ability to listen and respond to feedback. I don’t play PTR because of that.
I’ve actually been suggesting dropping Mercy’s healing to 50 per sec for a while. This is exactly what I want.
Grab something to drink, because this is going to be a doozy of a response. I’ll to my best to organize it for you in case you don’t want to read everything (which would be understandable; this post will have a LOT of detail).
Is OW-Console balanced separately from PC? If you were to count the Torb and Sym turret nerfs and/or Ally Aim Assist for Ana, yes; but those are the only Console-specific changes they’ve made. Otherwise, it’s literally been balanced as if it was a port (even though it’s not a port).
(If you were to ask for my thoughts on these, they can honestly completely revert the damage nerf to those turrets now. The game has been out long enough that most people know how to deal with the turrets. Keep in mind that this is but one person’s opinion on that though, so take this with a grain of salt.)
Our own forums? Nope! (The LFG forums don’t count in this case.)
As for the other issues, here we go:
(Note that just putting a PTR on Console is just one option. But I’d prefer to see it done in the means that a Console Player can play the PTR on PC, as long as they link their battle.net account. If a Console Player has linked their battle.net account, it should be safe to say that Blizzard has known Overwatch information on a person’s battle.net tag. How else would someone on Console be able to unlock something like, say, Winston’s Blizzcon 2017 skin?)
I know that E-Sports-related things are done by a separate division within Blizzard; but that’s not the point here. It’s also worth noting that I’m not asking for a Console Version of OWL here. Even the simplicity of just sponsoring tournaments for Console Players regularly would be fine. Not much to ask for, y’know?
- _FOV Slider,
- Text Chat*,
- Showing what mode your friends are playing in the friends list,
- Group privacy settings,
- Requiring permission for people to join your group,
- Region select,
- The ability to hide the chat,
- Hold to crossfade for Lucio, among others._
- The ability to play Console Overwatch in all of PC’s 13 playable languages without issues, regardless of where one’s copy of Overwatch was bought,
- The ability to bind a control to Double-Tapping a button,
- The ability to bind a control via pressing multiple buttons at once,
- Sliders for things like deadzones and magnetism, among others.
(For those that may want to ask, no; I’m not talking about competitive bans or Console-wide bans here. I know the former is unappealable, & the latter is handled by Sony/Microsoft. I’m specifically talking about the situation where a person is only unable to play OW-Console, but is able to play other online games on their Console Network just fine.)
There isn’t much to say on this that hasn’t already been said around the forums. Feel free to take a look around, if you have the leisure to do so.
(People have offered up ways in how this can be handled fairly; why don’t they at least take a little bit of time to look into it? As it stands, there’s pretty much no reason for one to fear the Report System on Console, even though Console Players cannot exactly appeal in-game suspensions. And that’s because they can easily move over to an alternate account to circumvent the suspension.)
The two most notable things that Console Players have noticed are frame-rate drops, and assets sometimes taking an unnecessarily long time to load.
The fact that they are not even transparent to their Console Player-base on these issues. None of these issues have gotten a response from the Development Team in over 6 months. The main issue is not the certifications or time, even though time has been steadily growing as an issue; the main issue is their lack of transparency to us. We want to believe that the Development Team is listening to the feedback of their Console Players as much as their PC Players. But if they’re not being transparent with us about these issues, how can we possibly tell that they’re trying to listen to the feedback of their Console Players as well? And this one is the smallest and most easily addressable of the issues as well.
Notes:
I know someone is going to try arguing to me that it would take a while to type a message in chat. So I’m going to give my own response to this right now before that happens. They can make it so that it opens the Keyboard Interface of the Console. The same thing happens when you are trying to explain why you are reporting someone. And while the Console Keyboard Interface is open, USB Keyboards that are plugged in to a Console DO work; I’ve tested this very thing myself. Apply this same concept for text chat, and you’re good to go.
I really hope this post gets a lot of views so tha blizzard reads this and hopefully responds. Obviously a lot of this needs to be answered. I’m sorry for the console player OW experience.
Reaper has literally been F-Tier for the past 11 seasons. Giving Reaper a speed buff in wraith walk did not address any of his major issues. It also really doesn’t seem like Reaper is in line for a rework, or for major buffs.
They need to rework, fix, or replace his teleport. It’s buggy and useless
The SR system. Competitive in general. It’s been awful practically since release, it’s only gotten worse.
What is bad about it? How would you fix it?
Placements for starters. On season 11 and everyone knows it doesn’t matter if you win or lose you will be placed in the same rank with a variation score of last year.
What’s the point of calling it placements when they have little impact on where you place.
Fixing it I would reset at least once every 3 or 4 seasons or Just start a season without placements and just start where you left off at the previous system.
Grind, repetitive, RNG, matchmaker, and lack of guild/clans also what’s wrong it would help if they addressed these issues but we are at season 11
Bastion.
This is an old thread; however, the report system is a long standing issue that Blizz has not addressed, is not being worked on, and they claim they want to restore faith in the report system.
Oh boy OP you’re in for a treat.
We asked for clans, guilds, campaigns, and more lore.
We have no clans, no guilds, no campaigns, no single player modes, and 1 cinematic short from Nov 2017 which is pretty darn stupid.
Let’s look at heroes then!
The state of Torbjorn, Symmetra, Sombra, Reaper and Bastion, who are consistent underpicked heroes in top ranks or even just higher ranks, are not addressed. We don’t know what Blizzard is planning for any of these heroes. Cue Symmetra and Sombra “rework” which did practically nothing to their pickrates and winrates.
Let’s look at Symmetra and Sombra. People want lock on on Symmetra’s gun. Ignored. People want photon barrier back for Symmetra to advance on enemies. Ignored. People want Hack-disruption-damage-threshold. Ignored. People do NOT want the recent Sombra changes. Ignored.
And let me just make it clear–it’s not just that Blizzard considers our arguments and decides against it. They don’t even show that they are listening to our opinion. They downright ignore us and carry on with whatever changes they are planning.
More examples? Reaper’s shadowstep is arguably the worst skill in the entire game, outclassed by Symmetra’s teleporter. Is it balanced? Do the devs think it’s balanced? Does it need a rework? Or does it need a buff? Do the devs care?
WE DON’T KNOW.
Bastion has been sitting at 0.01% pick rate for a good amount of time now. Do the devs think it’s fine? Do they have anything planned to address Bastion? Will they give headshots back? Have they experimented on that at all?
WE DON’T KNOW.
“But but but these are all your own opinions”
Never mind that a lot of people agree to these views anyways. Let’s talk report system.
It’s been a VERY long standing issue that the current report system is absolutely flawed since it punishes the non-toxic people and the people who group up to be toxic walk free. It is completely unthreatening since smurfs are a thing. It is completely unfair for player suspensions and bans to be based off popular (or unpopular) vote of the people you run across.
And what have the devs planned for this? Are they addressing it? Have they thought of a way to deal with it? Are they even dealing with it?
WE.
DON’T.
KNOW.
Don’t tell me they listen.
They seem generally pretty compliant or at least are willing to look into whether a hero needs a change, but there are some exceptions.
Bastion comes to mind. Bastion mains have been clamoring about the widely-ignored character and his incredibly weak state for 18 months now, but even though every other F-Tier hero is getting buffs of some sort, Bastion has yet to even be acknowledged.
i think a big part is people expect if they listen theyll either respond or do what they want, but they cant respond to most things thats just silly to expect, and they try to do things differently than what people say
I actually don’t agree.
There are some ideas that can be downright silly or just incoherent to their design principle, like giving Reaper smoke grenades in my opinion. But it’s been proposed and re-proposed again and again on the forums. How hard can it be for the devs to just say “We are not considering this in the forseeable future.”? It would cut off a LOT of redundant posts and at least give us an idea of what the devs are doing
What? But they answered him. They took away his shield allowed him to rotate 360. Changed his bullet spread. What is the problem with him now?
Because they haven’t done exactly what they want.
They really weren’t. First I ever heard of it was when Blizz announced the rework.