No SR loss, just that account banned from competitive. Just played against a “silver” level 20-something
widow who got a quad kill with only headshots (one was a 180 snapshot), ended with 82% scoped accuracy. Why is that okay? I know we can report them, but then they get an SR loss and they just destroy even lower levelled players? Why aren’t they just banned for abuse?
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- making alt account in not against rules.
- someone playing like that widow will climb very fast
- how do you know they want to smurf?
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throwing matches to place low to grief others is against the rules.
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Not when they throw enough matches to stay in silver.
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Brand new account, no prior competitive played, that kind of accuracy, and silver. And you’re arguing they weren’t an actual smurf? You realize that sounds ridiculous, right?
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You do realize that new accounts start at games which are placed in silver-gold range right. So how do you know he was smurfing? He was just placing his account most likely.
Why would he play way above his rank if he want to stay low with new acc?
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And why should blizzard ban alternate / smurf account when those accounts generated revenue /profit / money for them ?
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For what you report him?
He just started a new account(what is not against the rules)
And placed to low after placements.
People are also getting placed to high after placements.
They not abusing anything, this is how the system works.
People sometimes get placed in a rank they don’t belong, especially new accounts.
Not a single system can rank someone based on no data
Does it take way to many games for the system to place someone in the right rank where they belong? Yes, it takes way to long.
And because of this you will get many bad games with and against players that dont belong in your rank. Get used to it. Some games will be unwinnable, but you can always learn from them and get better. In some cases more then an even match.
Just see it as a learning experience, if you get shot your positioning was bad, or you and your team picked the wrong heroes and your focus damage was bad. He is just 1 player. The highest threat target. so everyone should be focusing her. With preferable heroes that are good against her.
Not necessarily. I have seen godlike smurfs throwing the game in the last second just to stay in that rank.
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I cannot stretch this enough. There are tanks and support smurfs too who carry your games and you are probably not even aware of it.
Everyone always complaining about the widow/genji/hanzo/doomfist uuugh
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Doesnt matter, even if you do it you will lose like 12 sr and gain 40 when you win. Its virtualy impossible to stay there for long time.
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You don’t gain sr for losing so as long as keep throwing you won’t.
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If you carry game with headshots/kills he mentioned, you will win most games.
Even if you try to stop doing anything at the end, its usualy too late because enemy team gave up already because of that smurf. Its pretty common.
They don’t generate revenue on consoles. Smurf accounts are free to make on Xbox & PS4.
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No, they are not. This is a fallacy that people need to stop parroting.
I’m talking pc…console are after thought.
Blizzard even confirm this.
Look at the Role Queue Update topic.
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New players are also set at a higher variance level, so the amount of SR you gain and lose is multiplied higher. The matchmaker does this because as a new player it knows very little about your skill and wants to determine it as fast as possible. The increased variance slowly decreases as you play more and more games, and the matchmaker is more confident in identifying your skill.
Yes, I’m aware of that.
They’re not getting placed “too high” which is what you claimed.
Also, a smurf player can easily game the system into placing them much lower than they should be.
Elitist much?
/20chars
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Sorry i am not sure what you are talking about any more?
Your against people having multiple accounts?
That was what the topic was about.
In the OP topic post there is no talk about down ranking,
Or a player who gamed the system to start lower.
Having multiple accounts is not a problem or is against the rules.
Downranking or throwing is, but this has nothing to do with having multiple accounts. Someone with only one account can also downrank and throw games.
The only thing they maybe should change is having free accounts when playing on console. Creating a new account should not be to easy.
This will result in players not caring about penalties.
If every(even the extra ones) account on console costs at least 20 dollar, most people would stop not caring about the penalties.
Or only restrict console’s not the pc, where most players with multiple accounts dont throw or downrank on purpose
A high tier player on a low tier smurf/alt/whatever you want to call it account has a distinct unfair advantage over players actually at those lower tiers as they’ve never experienced the game at the higher levels the smurf player has.
According to the in game reporting system, anything that gives an unfair advantage is cheating.
So yes, there are cases where having multiple accounts is against the rules.
Even a gm start his first placement match in gold.
Looking at SVB a GM tank.(and streamer) He bought his first extra account just to learn DPS. What I Learned As a GM in GOLD! Pt. One: What Each Role is Doing Wrong - YouTube
And he sucked… He probably should have even started lower then gold.
At it took him very long to climb.
He never threw and always played his best on dps heroes.
Should he get banned?
Playing as an only high tier player in a low tier, does not have to be an advantage.
It is an almost complete different game. With almost no teamwork and most people dont understand the basics. So they will never peel, try to form working setups, or use team tactics. They will keep trying the same thing over and over again even if it isn’t working etc…
And banning everyone who has a multiple account, just because some people with multiple accounts downrank, is the same as punishing everyone who is black, because some people who are black are criminals.
Having free accounts (so no real thread of punishment) makes it for some people easier to do bad stuff. Or make the decision to do bad things.
But having multiple accounts it self is not bad. Playing only a small amount of heroes on each account will even rank you better. Then playing all roles/heroes on one account before RQ.(one hero for each account is one tricking and is also a form of throwing) People being better placed means, better games.
Also able to have for example one account to play with friends and the other for solo is also better. Your friends could have been pulling your SR down or boosting you without you knowing. Or you play different when you play alone. Doing this on one account will still mean your rating will be wrong. Creating bad games.