Fair however I don’t see blizzard letting it just run wild with the community…they will “guide” the training so to speak
I understand your point, but i have to use some example, and whatever example i pick, it will touch some portion of the community, if not one, then another. My point isn’t about a particular example though, so don’t take it as that.
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And I question your idea that just because something can sometimes be improperly judged by the community doesn’t mean that it always, or even usually is.
How many times has the community as a whole judged something to be good or bad, but those that benefited from the status quo blocked progress on the issue?
Here’s how I live in ‘Overwatch’ and how it contrasts to the forum.
OW: Never rude, never ‘blunt’, and never demanding. Hardly do anything but respond to call outs, or inform on enemy comp/location.
I have never been silenced, reported, banned, or anything.
Forums: Make statements of truth, inform people they are incorrect, correct people, and poke fun at flawed logic.
I’ve been silenced many times, both old and new forums.
This ‘machine learning’ will not ban me. Ever, unless it starts to ban ALL OF US. 
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Well, i do hope they will. And i hope by bringing this to their attention, they will take an extra step to be careful.
But i brought this up because blizzard did mistakes in the past, and not one, and that’s fine, at blizzard work humans after all, not gods. Although some may worship them xD
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Lol trust me I understand your concern.
Blizzard is just notoriously passive in this game when it comes to punishments…my reasoning for believing they will be guiding the training
You are saying don’t be concerned. But this is blizzard, and there are many examples in the past that tell me, do be concerned. And i am a programmer, so i know how these things work, and it makes it even scarier.
Here is one thing we will both definitely agree with. Not being concerned and not raising awareness won’t do anything at avoiding a potential problem, but being concerned and raising awareness might have an effect at avoiding a problem. You know what i mean?
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I was once silenced on the forums for answering a question with a movie quote lol
Actually answering 2 different threads…unknowingly from the same guy…
Yep I would’ve thought harassment too lol
Yeah the forum silences are out of control, i’m on my fourth on my real account.
GG Bots.
I mean the quote wasn’t that flattering and I honest to god didn’t realize i was replying to the same guy…
Honestly it just looked bad lol
Yeah I feel you. My point was more, we can control this in game. I dont know if I can even handle playing comp, the level of tilt and salt is so far above what we get in QP, and I’m just here to chill you know?
We lost a game, the only time the enemy advanced, was when I died. I was carrying out of my mind, but if I died, well its a long run back.
I dont think I’ve been so pissed in 2 years with this game.
I didnt vent though, I didnt type anything but ‘gg’ after the loss, but it took me a good 20 minutes to stop feeling it.
This game is toxic, because of the players, but I’m personally not worried about a ‘chat ban’ because of what I do or say, in game.
Here, on the other hand…lol
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I think quotes around “machine learning” means it’s not real machine learning, just some additional scripts to analyze the results of the reported player with his usual results. For example, if player is underperforming noticeably and was reported - it’s obviously a troll/thrower.
But it’s just my assumptions.
A black guy saying it with a soft a is actually an acceptable context.
The machine learning isn’t only about chat, it is about reports in general. Do you think that people will be okay with current hanzo(maybe they will with the new one)?
You know the meme, hanzo does gods work and gets in return “you did ok hanzo”.
And unless hanzo is doing gods work, its usually the “switch hanzo now or i report for gameplay sabotage” situation. So you have the majority saying don’t play hanzo, and the algorithm is like “hmmm the majority doesn’t want hanzo, and this one hanzo got a few reports, well this looks just like countless other people say, its gameplay sabotage, ban!”.
This whole machine learning is about mimicking, and i don’t feel like mimicking some practices that the majority of the community does, like reporting torbs before the game even starts, is a good thing.
I get your point, and machine learning isn’t some new term, it has a baggage and when engineers say machine learning, they mean one specific thing.
But lets say you are right, they mean what you say. Do you think that banning for underperforming is okay? don’t you think that underperforming should be punishable by lowering the rank, not by bans?
Underperforming and griefing is not the same thing, one is not intentional, the other one is. You can’t say that someone is griefing just because the stats are below average at that level of play.
You get wet out of the ocean, but not every time you are wet you were in the ocean, you get what i mean?
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Yeah, I agree here. I just skimmed the dev post and thought it was ‘abusive chat’. 100% if you told a machine to look over reports and start banning based on it, all the off meta one tricks would be gone, 100%.
It would take probably 2 days.
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Just don’t forget we are talking about 2 events happened together: scripts can see player is underperforming AND player was reported by teammates.
I understand that, my point still stands. If i you are playing hanzo and you have a bad game, you don’t deserve to be banned, you deserve a lower rank. You were not griefing, you just had a bad game. What if people reported you, does it mean you were griefing? of course not.
Player A is getting dunked on. It doesnt even matter the hero. Like ‘walk out of spawn’ killed.
His stats SUCK.
His team is a 4 stack, of salty kids (I hate stacks) and report him.
Based on the reports (4 of 6) and his Stats? Maybe the bots ban him.
Is that justice?
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Absolutely. If player is drunk and playing too bad - he is a burden for the team and he made it intentionally. He should be penalized.
From another side, if 5 salty kids report player who is actually playing well, just not the hero they want, same scripts can protect that player.