AKA, itâs not reportable. However, itâs obviously frowned upon by the majority of the Competitive Community.
So again we get this non-answer. Blizzard keeps trying to have their cake and eat it too, because one-tricks buy loot boxes too right?
You canât encourage team play in a team based game but then turn around and say itâs OK to Hero squat in a Competitive Mode. Itâs one or the other. This is why people keep creating these threads and you have implemented band-aid âfixesâ like Avoid As Teammate.
You guys really need to implement better IN-GAME tools that allow people to form teams of like-minded individuals and do not punish people for grouping up like you currently do with 6 stacks. If people donât want to group with one-tricks, they should not have to. In turn, Iâm sure one-tricks would rather not be grouped with players that donât want them on their team.
Iâm not a game Dev but the solution really doesnât seem like rocket science to me. I donât understand why itâs taken this long to implement.
No offense but that sounds like a âcopy and pasteâ fob off answer to me. It would be nice to get something concrete, even though Iâm not a one trick, as it appears players are getting suspended for one tricking and getting nowhere with appealing. Unfortunately that kinda reminds me of the âcopy and pasteâ thread post on the Mercy megathread too (or megavoid). What are those appealing supposed to do, paste a URL to this thread pointing out that one tricking is allowed when appealing?
Players are getting suspended for one tricking badly. Nobody cares if youâre a god-tier Symmetra one trick that can carry the game. They care if everyone else is trying their hardest and youâre just sitting there feeding ultimates because itâs impossible to work around you.
I agree, thereâs no arguing that if someone is performing badly on a one trick hero then they should switch and be able to adapt based on the situation (e.g. getting countered). However, thereâs an unknown line as to what is bannable and not bannable regarding one tricking. I donât want to report someone whoâs performing badly as a one trick if that is actually constituting being a false report, but if it isnât a false report then Iâll happily do so. So Iâm from the other side whoâs not a one trick but wants to know if itâs truly reportable. Hope that makes sense .
Honestly, if there was a minimum message length to accompany reports I feel it would cut down on ones used by man-babies to attack other comp players.
If you canât add an actual coherent message the length of a tweet at least to a report its not likely to be a reportable matter and then at least youâd be able to separate whitenoise reports when someone is spamming more or less the same junk against everyone and those that detail exactly what the person did.
I submitted an appeal and was told I would be guilty of GM abuse if I continued.
I was reported for âinactivityâ and âputting turrets in spawnâ and âfeedingâ simply because I was playing Torbjorn. None of those accusations were true. They were made up from whole cloth.
Support told me they did not review any video evidence
The only time I put a turret in spawn is at the door before a match starts
They only time I am inactive is when I have to wait for the team to respawn, otherwiseâŚ
⌠I am reported as âfeedingâ when the rest of the team dies and I am killed.
At the time these fake reports were filed, I had a 60% win rate with Torbjorn at 300 games and was in the top 95 percentile. I was reported pre-emptively by 4 stacks who were tilting in the spawn room.
I donât use voice chat and there is no OW text chat in game on console. I received 6 aggressive expletive-laden DMs a night during this period and reported them to MS, but Blizz support didnât want to see them.
In short⌠organized tilting groups caused me to lose my love of the game. As far as I can tell, the âfalse reportingâ detection system fails entirely if a whole group blames one person for hero choice, which is exactly what you said they could not report for.
Saying that hero choice is not reportable can not be retconned or excused by saying âhow effective is the heroâ especially when the rest of the team is failing just as much as you are.
It was really rotten and the whole support culture of âoh, uh, well, if you didnât actually do this, you probably did something else wrong in the pastâ is terrible.
I just said that I was told by Support that if I kept appealing I would be suspended / banned for GM Abuse.
They said absolutely nothing other than what was C&P above
No abusive chat because I no longer use voice chat
No inactivity because I was not inactive or milling about in spawn. During the period of time I was not even experiencing lag
No feeding because, 1: the turret does no generate ult for being destroyed, and 2: I wasnât dying any more than the other people on my team⌠usually less, on average.
On the other hand:
I often had Reins who would stand facing me swinging their hammer and refuse to put up their shield
Mercys who would follow me out of re-spawn only to take their healing beam off of me as soon as an enemy was encountered, then stand facing me and firing their gun
A variety of tilted players spamming âpunchesâ at me in the middle of a battle
And these same players would send me abusive direct messages
So now that Iâm afraid to play my favorite (and best) hero, my SR dropped around 300 and my win rate / percentile plummeted. I donât really care about that, though. I care about how Blizzard enabled trolls by allowing fake reports sent en masse to have an effect without review or evidence, and how, in turn, Blizzard supports the idea that hero choice is reportable while the official statement explicitly says otherwise.
I wouldnât want to be in your shoes, so sorry to hear of this experience . Itâs awful getting contradictory information, but this isnât the first time itâs happened. The Mercy megathread is another prime example of contradictory information, they say theyâre listening to our feedback but some of us proved in the thread that they arenât based on âread postsâ on the profile stats. This one trick thing has been an ongoing topic, where support pretty much imply or say itâs bannable and official statements on the forum say itâs not. Itâs as if two departments arenât communicating with each other. Iâd like to know if it is or isnât truly bannable so that I know when itâs right to submit a report or not to submit a report. I donât want to risk getting suspended for false reports unintentionally.
Can we get an explicit statment that character choice cannot be assumed to be malicious, and is not reportable, regardless of past profile data on any of the 12 players, and/or if someone refuses to use text or voice communication?
And they gave you the option to avoid 2 players. If they increase the number, history will repeat itself, and they will remove it because people will abuse it.
2 is fine for Master+ but not nearly enough for Platinum and below. How will increasing that number be âabusedâ? One-Tricks are the exact reason why Avoid As Teammate was even created. Itâs not for toxic players (as thatâs what the report system is for), but itâs to give players more control over who they are grouped up with. 2 is not going to be enough for the lower-ranks, so hopefully itâs expanded.
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. Itâs awful getting contradictory information, but this isnât the first time itâs happened. The Mercy megathread is another prime example of contradictory information, they say theyâre listening to our feedback but some of us proved in the thread that they arenât based on âread postsâ on the profile stats. This one trick thing has been an ongoing topic, where support pretty much imply or say itâs bannable and official statements on the forum say itâs not. Itâs as if two departments arenât communicating with each other. Iâd like to know if it is or isnât truly bannable so that I know when itâs right to submit a report or not to submit a report. I donât want to risk getting suspended for false reports unintentionally.