We DO NOT AT ALL need more COMPETITIVE modes. We need our heroes to be SAVED!

This post is in response to the fact that we are getting yet another competitive game mode.

I think I need to be the one to say the painful truth that everyone’s trying to ignore: Our base roster of heroes needs help.

So many players of this game feel like they can’t play heroes they truly want to play because of their current state. This is turning Overwatch that was widely regarded as a diverse and open game with many playstyles into a very closed game and unwelcoming to many different playstyles unfortunately.

Seeing that resources were STOLEN from our deeply IN NEED heroes could bring me to tears. It is heartwrenching seeing that instead of helping our most in-need heroes that we just get another competitive mode where we can’t even express our own unique playstyles in.

It actually breaks a part of my heart that after all of the pleas for help that we have resources stolen away from us.


Here are heroes that need help:


1: Bastion. He’s been neglected for years. This poor little robot with his cute little bird has been widely regarded as a troll pick for so long now that I don’t think many people who play him think they will ever see the light of day again.

2: Roadhog. He’s finally gotten a buff on the PTR and people are already calling for nerfs for him, after he’s been in a horrific state for well over a year or so now. Even if he has attention right at this moment, how long will it be until he is just nerfed into the ground again?

3: Mei. She’s still a fringe overly niche pick and widely seen as a troll pick if taken in competitive. Her job is better done by Sombra and overall outside of specific niches she loses. Mei is in such desperate need of help.

4: Wreckingball. He’s still seen as a troll pick too and is widely hated on in game. Sure a few people can do good things with him, but we all know when push comes to shove the vast majority of players will prefer reinhardt over wreckingball.

This is shown in pickrates, as Reinhardt is nearly at 100% pickrate.

4: Orisa. She’s never been really meta and has widely been regarded as being worse than Reinhardt outside of a pirate ship with bastion (or something similar). Even now with the current CC meta of lots of doomfist, bridgettes and the like Orisa is STILL left unpicked! And this is a prime time for her!

She needs so much help and LOVE.

5: Symmetra. She’s currently unable to duel anyone, her turrets are still too flimsy and her ultimate is one of the few ultimates in the entire game that can be outright IGNORED.

Like take Symmetra against Winston: Symmetra loses.

Take Symmetra against D’va: Symmetra loses.

Take Symmetra against Soldier: Symmetra loses.

There isn’t a single hero in this game aside from perhaps Mercy that Symmetra can beat in 1v1.

6: Mercy. She’s been unnecessarily reworked and beaten and abused so greatly that it’s actually worth crying over. Her winrates and pickrates suggest she is the troll-pick of the entire support category.

Moira out does her, Ana out does her, Baguette out does her, Zenyatta out does her, Lucio out does her.

Mercy needs love and attention. As I’ve indicated across so many different points in threads.

Like here is the math I did of Mercy vs. other supports in a table form:


All percentages is showing HOW MUCH THE HERO TO THE LEFT (row) DOES COMPARED TO MERCY. Areas that the opposing hero does MORE than Mercy will be marked by a (+) and areas the opposing hero does LESS than Mercy will be marked by a (-).

Eg: Moira does 1395% MORE ELIMINATIONS THAN MERCY. (Yes, you read that right! ONE THOUSAND THREE HUNDRED AND NINETY FIVE!)

HERO NAME------ ELIMS ----- OBJECTIVE ELIMS ----- DAMAGE% ----- HEALING%

Moira ---------------(+) 1395%----(+) 1406%---------------(+) 1455%-------(+) 5.5%

Zenyatta -----------(+) 1027%----(+) 871%-----------------(+) 2108%-------(-) 53%

Bridgette^1 -------(+) 1072%----(+) 931%-----------------(+) 1379%-------(-) 45%

Lucio^2 -------------(+) 940%------(+) 949%-----------------(+) 1438%-------(-) 19%

Ana -----------------(+) 717%------(+) 608%-----------------(+) 954%---------(-) 16.5%

^1 [If you look into the Bridgette vs. Mercy analysis below, you actually can see mathematical backing for the concept that Bridgette contributes more to “team sustain” than Mercy through her armor generation and healing.]

^2 [Lucio may offer “only” 19% less healing than Mercy. But this isn’t taking into account his shield barrier in any capacity. I couldn’t find average damage shielded by Lucio so I left this out because I wanted to keep this as mathematically relevant as possible. I’m quite sure it’s non-trivial.]

Note: Table does NOT account for armor, shield, healing increase or other utility


So why are we focused on getting yet ANOTHER competitive game mode when we already have so many competitive game modes?


Our base hero roster is in pain. Mercy needs a rework or a revert or something, and yet resources are being STRIPPED AWAY and STOLEN from Mercy and put into game modes we already have.

We’ve had competitive mode for literally years now.
We already have LFG competitive.
We already have had competitive capture the flag.
We already have had competitive lucioball.
We already have had competitive deathmatch.
We already have had competitive so many modes.

So why are we stealing resources from the base hero roster to make yet another competitive game mode?

We already have had so many.


We deserve our base hero roster to be fun and engaging to play.


It means that instead of focusing on making our base roster of heroes we’ve had since release fun and engaging to play that they instead took away resources that could provide us with fun reworks.

It feels like a cruel and uncaring slap in the face after all of the effort and threads we’ve made. It is absolutely directly related to the mistreatment and cruelty we experience.

We should have a fun base roster of heroes we can play in ANY mode. And yet instead of a rework we instead are given yet another competitive game mode when we already have so many.


It just feels so terribly sad (honestly feel like I could CRY in real life seeing this) seeing this instead of a rework to our beloved guardian angel.


Like I even have made a post outlining a rework idea that REMOVES revive even. If revive can’t work in this game, fine. Remove it. And put that power through her entire kit.

I am honestly just wanting Mercy to be a fun pacifist healer that is engaging and cool to play. Right now she isn’t even close to that and she feels so painful to play.

What do we need to do just to have our angel back in the game and fun? What more can we do? What will it take for us to finally be acknowledged?

HELP OUR HEROES PLEASE.

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You were featured in one of ragtaggs video’s I think xD


Since people have been replying to this after I posted the video I’ll put in on this post.


Upon further investigation it could be anyone with the name of Sovereign since he didn’t show an icon and it wasn’t a “mercy post” although the number of posts seems to match up pretty well.

Go to about 6:30 to see Sovereign

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I feel like this is ultimately another Mercy thread given the amount of attention you put on her at the expense of everyone else.

Regardless, this all belies the fact that development is based on multitasking. We can get new content and buffs at the same time.

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Good, I am happy to hear that I have another person supporting the effort to save Mercy from her current state.

MAY THE RIGHTEOUS AND JUST WIN! May our heroes be saved from the current state that they are in where they are both unfun to play and weak.

Save Mei! Save Bastion! Save Wreckingball! Save Orisa! SAVE THEM ALL!

We deserve and need attention to our base roster that we play across all of our games. It is time to lift up our heroes as a whole! LEAVE NONE BEHIND!

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That’s not the type of video it was… … … …

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Am I the only one who couldn’t care less about Mercy fanatics anymore and didn’t read past the first sentence? I feel it’s time for these posts to go into a spam folder.

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Here is the thing… Mercy players will NEVER EVER ALL BE HAPPY!!! So its past time that the devs stop trying to even mess with her at all, she is fine…

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Not really. Mei can actually kill stuff and I think she’s fine (I main her along with some other heroes btw)

Wait a few weeks

Ha! Don’t you guys use overbuff? Her winrate is barely under 50% and she is still picked quite frequently.

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There’s QP /Custom games /arcade. You have modes where you can do as you wish. You’re overreacting and if a video game is making you want to cry, please seek professional help.

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First, the new mode is an amazing idea. I can’t applaud the devs hard enough.

Second, stop pretending every single thing in Overwatch is mutually exclusive. “How dare you change the forums font, you should be fixing my favorite heroes bugs!!!”.

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Overwatch needs development in general, though I agree the heroes need some love. If the game gets developed, then it’ll continue being a great, vibrant game.

Unfortunately, there’s little to no chance of the forums agreeing on what should be worked on. Literally anything and everything the devs do gets criticized, and they’re being pulled by the community in every direction at all times. I think from their vantage point, they have to pick projects to develop and hope those are the right projects. But the possibility of everybody liking what they do is pretty much not there.

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Do you know what kind of videos ragtagg even makes…?

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Maybe if you stopped spamming the forums with your toxic threads the devs might actually listen!

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Hello Bizzurk

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You can play your favorite heros on quick-play, arcade and custom-games. Competitive mode is ruled by the playerbase and they will report anybody using a non-meta hero. The only way blizzard can fix this issue is removing the “auto-ban-machine” after receiving x number of reports.

To enjoy competitive mode just make some friends and play in a premade in that way you can play your favorite heros.

Balancing heros based on E-sport players is not my thing but lets be honest here. Balancing heros on what a Gold/Platinum rank player can do is not right as well these players barely can use these heros at maximum potential. So yeah i need to accept all the balance changes will be based on E-Sports.

Example

OP poster this are your Mercy stats as platinum player

10.124 healing average
11.91 deaths
16.91 def assist

Any random master rank mercy

11.932 healing average
5.00 deaths
22.90 def assist

As you see you die A LOT on Mercy, your healing average is almost 2k less and your def assist is 5 less. Imagine if they balance the character based on a platinum player like “YOU”.

You need die less improving ur guardian-angel usage this will directly increase your healing average these 2k and you need improve in the usage Power beam/ Healing beam

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Yeah, this is just a Mercy thread disguised as an all heroes thread.

And really, why are you even using Elim stats to justify Mercy needing help? Like, really…

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How to create a thread to make people think you want to help UP heroes but advocating almost only mercy case :´)

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Pretty much. This thread is an insult to those mains.

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Hiya CoolDog!

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