Want to get rid of double shield? nerf mei

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try running orisa-sigma-widow-hanzo-lucio-moira in a world without mei. you will get dove to pieces.

the game NEEDS dive. and the game needs dive to stop being countered by bot heroes. dive needs to be countered by equally skilled counterplay, or close enough. like lucio, baptiste, soldier, mcree.

there are checks and balances in the roster that are necessary. like pharah, and flankers.

i understand bad players are helpless against good flankers. but hwen you let bad players counter good flankers by picking a hero, the game becomes impossible to balance.

a plat mercy main NEEDS to get destroyed by a masters tracer smurf. nullifying that interaction has brought this game down a long line of game breaking decisions and it will never be fixed unless blizzard stops. just fix your matchmaker and it will happen less.

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Yess this is so true, wei deserves a well deserves Nerf and rework on her overpowered w+m1 and forgiving head hitbox She has, how can her neck be so thin on such a fat body

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Her and Reaper need hit with the nerf bat. But knowing the balance team, they’ll just nerf Sombra instead.

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reaper is fine. you can outplay him, you can fight him off, you can avoid him.

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Something you cant do against .mei

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So many people keep asking if I want double shield nerfed (I do) and then they want some random balance change. How about this, we add a hero that can shoot through barriers. We can even make it McCree’s new passive because his bullets glow, right? Surely he is packing heat. If we do that, no need to do all this random mumbo jumbo.

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if you jump into their team as Winston, and they have a reaper, you can bubble dance for a second, you can juke his shots a bit, you can land in a way to bounce him across your bubble. your DVA can DM him for enough time to create some disruption and escape. if he outplays you, you die. if you outplay him, you can do your job of causing some damage and distraction and get away.

if you jump into a team with a mei… you ARE getting slowed, frozen, and you ARE dying.

the same is true of the flank DPS, except even worse.

before they overbuffed her left click dmg, you would get slowed or frozen but it wasnt guaranteed death. if you came upon her by accident, you could still damage her enough to force ice block and get away.

She is already instantly slowing and stunning you after like .8 seconds. Why should it do so much damage too? Why does she not have to aim the left click?

the answer of course, is that Blizzard WANTS easy bot heroes to be able to beat good players so that a specific group of their player base can always switch to something and beat people better than them.

low entry skill heroes that scale well exist in the game. Lucio and Rein are both very easy to just play the game as when you start, but are also very high skill cap. DVA is the same way.

so why do the low skill floor+low skill ceiling heroes exist at all?

and yes, I know mei’s right click is high skill ceiling. That’s why she was cool when she used to need it to be worth playing.

How about this, we add a hero that can shoot through barriers.

there are already a TON of heroes that can avoid shield play. mei is just too strong for them to work most of the time.

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#donottouchmei please

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Nerf Mei and WIDOW AND HANZO.

Snipers are a huge part of the reason GOATS was a thing and are why we went IMMEDIATELY back to double sniper after it ended.

Also, people saying “Mei was not touched in forever” are misinformed because she has been. She’s had 4 substantial buffs to her kit and one MINOR nerf.

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mei’s left click got buffed like 6 months ago. the pros didn’t play her because brigitte was still MORE op than her. as soon as GOATS was fixed, the other issues came to the fore.

was Widow really balanced 6 months ago, even though the pros never played her? no.

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Wait this whole time I thought brig was the death of dive, are you telling me that this whole time we could have just used Mei?
/s

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i mean, the snipers are a bit OP. but they had nothing to do with goats… but thats an issue for another day, I guess.

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It got buffed from 42 to 55 DPS. That doesn’t make the overall damage any less terrible, in fact it’s only 5 more DPS than Moira M2 which is also pretty pitiful and 5 less than Winston M1.

Then her M1 freeze takes 1.5 or more seconds, which is 32 hits or more from her M1 spray. Comparable to the amount of time it takes Mercy to rez someone.

Mei is probably the last DPS you want to run against a coordinated dive, she takes too long to do anything useful other than put up a weird wall which will probably screw over her own team in the process.

Other than the fact we’ve had Symmetra, and the moment she showed up in the meta people were starting nerf riots even though she’s kinda THE meta counter. M1 charges not only off of barriers but Mei walls too. At best they can revert that slow duration buff from 1.5 to 1 but anything further would just send her back to troll tier pretty easily.

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They were part of it. GOATS was the only comp that could protect itself from consistent one-shots.

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that left click “buff” pff yeah players are gonna stand still so they can be frozen, in a line

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do winston and moira slow and stun you?

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thats not their jobz

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I mean, of course if you create one hero to counter dive, snipers are going to become even stronger.

Dive was OP. Snipers were OP. and brigitte was more OP than all of them combined lol. THATS why we had goats.

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Of course not but they have actual mobility instead of CC. Hell a good Winston will kill you much faster with Jump + Melee into M1.

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its not about time to kill here. its about being too easy to counter too many things without enough counterplay. mei completely limits what you can play against her. you HAVE to be orisa or sigma.