Tracer gets vertical movement on ptr. Echo is a dps and broken af. The recent patch note is the worst i’ve ever seen.
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… Couldn’t you always do that, though? It’s been a hot minute since I’ve played, but I’m fairly certain I distinctively remember messing with Widows there. Could be a faulty memory so someone feel free to correct me here.
I have no clue as I never play Tracer. But I can say with full confidence that I dont think I have ever seen a Tracer up there in all my time playing this game. And even if she could, it was extremely difficult to do so, as it should be.
Hmm, gimme a minute, I’ll go test it out. I could be remembering doing that on Reaper instead.
Time2Science!
Edit: Yep, you can. https://i.imgur.com/f91CAOH.png
Took me a minute to remember the route. It’s actually not that hard to do, I just forgot the way around and was trying to bypass a point. XP
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Please don’t let this ever come to console
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It is a massive buff.
For those curious about that high ledge on Anubis, here ya go on live:
Step 1: Get here (where the crosshair is pointing) via regular jumping onto the boxes then onto the ledge.
https://i.imgur.com/bggXVtx.png
Step 2: This is the hardest step, but double Blink to hit the ledge where the ulti icon is covering in the screenshot. Have to be standing at just the right angle and jump pre-Blink to land right.
https://i.imgur.com/0yprLC0.png
Step 3: One quick Blink over to this next ledge.
https://i.imgur.com/dftxlDO.png
Step 4: Triple Blink to the platform just below the crosshair.
https://i.imgur.com/5Wq0zGP.png
Step 5: Use a normal jump to get the rest of the way up.
https://i.imgur.com/cjzvaFI.png
Step 6: Accidentally step on the Lego Widow left for you up there.
https://i.imgur.com/7OPet7b.png
And that’s How2Tracer on Anubis. 
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thats so old wdym
Ive done it before but with many fails
This is the explanation for literally every action they’ve taken for a long time now.
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You and your fancy level 3 powers. 
Ty.
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From having played around with it meself, i see no issue personally.
(In fact i personally think Tracer should have vertical mobility to an extent, but i digress.)
For those unaware, it only seems to take effect with ledges that are a few meters out of reach, the Tracer can’t scale walls like a Genji or jump up them.
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if you really want to annoy widow players, you can also come at her from behind:
they never expect it (that’s on live btw)
Of all the years I’ve played tracer I don’t think I’ve ever encountered more than a few other players who parkour around maps… To be honest, if this buff (QOL, whatever) went live, I still wouldn’t expect that many people to
It would be fantastic for the few of us who do spend time learning what can and can’t be done. I doubt it would turn the average person into an unstoppable menace considering they’re already mostly unaware of how to scale the map 
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Hahaha, that’s awesome!
I love to Blink to places Widows don’t think I can get to. It’s so funny when they panic SMG mode. XD
You know, that’s a good point. Like when Lucio’s wall ride got buffed, it didn’t suddenly make an army of Reddit Lucios appear out of nothing. XD I guess the pros will make use of it, but the ones who can’t currently do that stuff anyway probably still won’t bother doing it, so … yeah, the change actually impacts very little when you think of it that way.
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I don’t know if this is intentional. But it’s pretty big. With the new blink change, not only it’s a QOL change but it allows to do more jumps with her blinks. For two days, I was messing with her blinks on PTR and I was able to get to places that I couldn’t before or using less blinks. Her blinks acts like a second jump since it takes to an account of your height at the start of the blink.
Exactly. Wallriding received huge buffs whether it be how easy it was to do, or how fast you could go. Yet it didn’t really turn the average lucio into a madman because the play itself is still extremely risky. It made good lucios way better and it only very marginally made bad lucios better.
I’m hoping that they’re aware of the implications and are at least willing to see how it changes things. My worry is that they’re not aware, and are going to look at this and think “What the 
? Patch that out FAST!” because I admit, it does look pretty unbelievable. It’s so unbelievable that I would find it amazing if they didn’t accidentally figure it out. Then again, moira fading out of earthshatters after being stunned…
There is also another potential tweak they could do that would at least be a compromise. They changed something about blink that wasn’t actually listed in the patchnotes. On live, if you jump and blink with no cooldowns enabled you will slowly descend. Yet on the PTR, you fly off into the sky. Why? Because they altered how it positions you after a blink - you’re pushed upwards now regardless of if you’re going over something. In the patchnotes they don’t say that. The patchnotes only reference a sort of internal ‘height check’ that happens when trying to scale something. It doesn’t say you literally move upwards with every blink.
If they remove the change to her final position yet keep the new height check logic, there might still be a lot of new potential blink jumps unlocked without some of the more… absurd ones being included.
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I mean, people screamed bloody murder on her primary range buff saying she’d destroy the game – and all it did was help her be a little bit more viable. Going to hold judgement on this one for sure.
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I honestly felt that one would be a big deal if dive came back and still kinda do. But it’s not as strong as it felt at first in most circumstances. But these buffs are a-okay with me. This is the kind of method of buffing I love. Make a hero more consistent or better at the things they should be strong at rather than decreasing or eliminating counterplay/risk.
and WHY shouldnt she be able to do that? Explain.
You can’t just whine and say “she op wahhh” and not explain.
Mobility creep must continue. Slash all cooldowns, make everyone hop over rooftops.
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