Torb and sym are op

Im just kidding but seriously how do these 2 heros stull have such a ridiculously high win rate on overbuff, I know what people say about the data not being accurate but come on this has been a thing for seasons now I refuse to believe that many people can’t deal with sym still ESPECIALLY TORB.

They say there only picked at like specific situations on specific maps but like in what situation are you specifically choosing Torb?

Yes , but noobs like them, so they will stay and continue to be Annoying pests

Because NOBODY SHOOTS AT THE FREAKING TURRETS. I would do it myself if they gave me the ability to throw my hammer. Alas, it was not meant to be…

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i guess firestrike doesnt exist

You only have two of them. Symmetra has three freaking turrets and you use Firestrike to built ultimate so that you can actually do something in a fight. Wasting both of them to not even clear a turret is cringe.

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you complain that you dont have the ability to destroy them

yet you do have the ability

you refuse to remove the thing, that you know is there

you deserve everything you receive from a symm/torb

I mean, technically I can destroy them with my hammer if they are placed out of position too. It’s a matter of practicality. It is never practical for me to do anything about it. But yes, some teammates demonstrate themselves to be so utterly useless that I do indeed commit a double firestrike to dispose of a Torbjorn turret and leave myself at a disadvantage because if I choose to do anything else, nothing happens.

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My guy hes not being THAT serious, yes rein dose struggle a bit against turrets but if he really wanted to deal with them hed just go Rammatra.

There can also be other reasons hee on rein against a certain comp and needs his team to break the turret.

Nah I think Buddha is right here. Total waste of resources imo. I play rein a lot and having a fire strike or two comes very well in clutch situations.

Feels to me you just knit picking words for the sake of a debate ngl lol

Taxi for lijang and torb for heavy poke comps because he can effectively poke from 2 places at once.

I know youre half joking but turrets have nothing to do with syms viability unless maybe in low mmr quick play

bro clearly NEVER played rein before and is a stinky dps main

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I can’t even imagine how much dps sym’s laser can pull out, she literally is easier zarya, at least her ult isn’t crazy good but dam, such boring playstyle but yet crazy damage output

easier zarya is crazy when zarya is just sym but specced into beambotting… and sym ult is one of the best ults in the whole game like what?

A Zarya beam + Sym beam + Moira ult beam is the only time I would even think its op. Remove her turrets as well as dont use shields against her and you wont power up her attack. Same with torb destroy his turret and his dmg output is not bad but its not great either. They are both off angle defense dps and once you know to keep an eye out for their turrts they are no longer a threat

Real men swing torb’s hammer, not rein’s.

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zarya has to sacrifice her abilities and positions to get her dps right up so she can fight, sym has dps of almost zarya’s 100 energy just by hitting something, which we all do, even zarya (surprising) ults really depends on who use it, if used correctly, all ults are the best in the game but not saying it’s bad. Her turrets are also good distractions and make enemies sacrifice abilities sometimes, plus she also has team wide movement ability which has so many uses when zarya doesn’t have any. I would agree with zarya being beambotting but not as easy as sym, cuz all these can get good values even when made mistakes

Because Overbuff is broken and completely unreliable right now. Read my post about it for more info.

It’s actually been broken for seasons now. It got really bad around the time champion was added.

Neither are picked that much in top 500 right now. See my post for a breakdown of pick rates based on the PC Americas leaderboard. I know you are a console player so I’d actually expect them to be more picked on console, but still.

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Sym has to charge up her beam to reach zarya’s damage, or even mid-range dps damage while being forced to be relatively close range.

The delusions of some people.

low pickrate + the people that actually play them are all 9000 hours one trick…

yes and she also has much lower health and lower range. not sure why you’re trying to pain getting charge by “just hitting something” in a good light when sym would benefit way more from being able to get it remotely. on zarya “just hitting something” would be good bc she actually has the healthpool for it.

syms ult is one of the best in the game, it’s not about “who is using it”. a bad player will obviously be worse with it than a good one but that is not the point. and no not all ults are the best in the game or even close to it??

yes, sym has more playstyles than just beambotting isn’t that crazy? u spend most of the time flanking or off angling w/ orbs rather than beaming. but in terms of just beambotting (which I think is your main impression of her?) in what world is sym easier when she’s not even built to play like that without being enabled by her team?