I know itās hard to balance her due to design, but itād be nice to see Pharah get some love. Right now she feels like a flying pinata.
Balance will only go for worse until Blizzard abandons the idea of Hard balance changes like the one did to Doomfist which was just unforgivable.
doomfist needed somekind of overhaul but i think this nerf was just to quell the fire for now.
he needs to be more fluid in his kit but i think weāll have to wait a while before blizzard can figure out to make doomfist not so awkward to fight against and to play as.
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I havenāt played comp in a very long time so I have no rank, but my most played heroes are Pharah, Mercy, Winston, Genji, and Zenyatta in that order.
Based on my experience I donāt think there are very many heroes who are trash picks at the moment, but Brigitte really needs a buff. I mean, yeah, she was too strong before, but sheās far too weak now. The maximum Rally duration of 30 seconds wonāt make things much worse for her, but sheāll still be in a pretty bad place.
If you were in the habit of rocket-spamming from afar like I was before the changes, I suggest getting into the habit of dive-bombing. Thatās what another Pharah main told me after I complained, and it really helped my game.
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All he needed was the Uppercut nerf and a rework to his ult, but instead they destroyed Seismic Slam and made Meteor Strike even more trash than it already was.
And no, this form of balancing should never be a thing, EVER
i honestly think doomfist ultimate is just a bad ult and try to balance that thing is never gonna work, either it kills or it doesnāt.
maybe if it was like an aoe earthshatter instead? that way those he hits and donāt die canāt just kill him for free and itās also a good cc ultimate, however with blizzard being scared of putting in more cc into the game it wonāt probably happen.
this form of balancing has been a kind of a trend in overwatch and it just happened to doomfist, but yeah i think the uppercut and the ultimate should get some more looking at, but then again i think how his mechanics works should get looked at so he doesnāt need to abuse bugs to be ok and then they can feel free to remove some bugs thatās too much.
lol @ people thinking āits the most balanced its ever beenā
when over half the roster is unusable, and the meta is ZERO dps.
and low skill low effort heroes are what drives GOATS, because why not? they are just as strong as the high skill heroes when the high skill heroes are played well, so if the enemy DOESNT play well, you have big advantage, because your derpy hero cannot be played badly (talking mechanical here).
That is the crux of the problem in OW - the only heroes that reward skill properly are snipers. Otherwise just counterpick whatever derptard easy w+m1 hero you need to counter their skilled hero, and wa la! You just overwatched.
There are a fair number of problems. Rein and Zarya are too good. Brigitte is purely a problem at this point with no redeeming factors. A lot of DPS are not viable, more than ever before.
They need to:
Cancel the armor nerf and just nerf the tanks that are a problem, Rein, Zarya, and Dva.
Buff up all non-sniper non-flanker DPS. Iāve been saying they should give them all 50 more health.
Give up and just delete Brigitte. Rework her as a completely new hero and add her back in later.
Supports are pretty good right now although they should probably let Moira heal through barriers again, and that would probably fix the balance the rest of the way.
I think the balance could be a lot better, but at the same time, itās not horrifically bad at the moment, at least where I play. I see my fair share of GOATS, but other than that, itās pretty decent.
Supports are generally okay. I think Mercy could use a bump.
DPS:
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Sombra needs significant buffs/changes to be viable for ladder play.
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Doomfist, Torb and Symm could use minor buffs.
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Genji needs a solid DPS counter (railgun or something he canāt deflect).
Tanks
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Nerf Reinhardt. Reduce size/range of Earthshatter, increase barrier cooldown, reduce charge distance.
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Buff Orisa, more HP.
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Buff Hammond, CC reduction on Shields, increase clip size.
Gold tank main, but Silver DPS this season.
Most played heroes in past few seasons are D.Va, Orisa, Ashe, Pharah, Widow, Ana, Moira and Zen.
looking at overbuff winrates.
sym: turrets need to be on longer cool down and louder. they are far too spammy and annoying.
brig: still got a very high win rate, letās see if rally and armour nerf finally tame this monster.
ashe: win rate is too high, probably a dynamite nerf would fix it. game could always do with less spam.
sombra: her low win rate is down to people playing her badly. i dont see how you could buff her any more without her being the most cancer character ever.
other than that the balance seems ok. the armour nerf should close the gap between tanks and dps.
I didnāt think thereād be many people advocating for a Symmetra nerf. I think sheās one of the worst heroes in the game.
In my opinion, the games balance is pi*s poor right now.
Iāve never seen a game receed this quickly in just two years after the amazing updates they did in the first year of the game.
WAY too many nerfs and not enough buffs.
Hanzo, D.VA, maybe Ana, Brig stand out as OP since every other hero has been nerfed to boring levels of playability, or the rest of the roster sits in F-tier.
As for changes? Theyāll never do it since they only build upon nerfs, but reverts for a LOT of nerfs. Sombra, old Roadhog, old D.VA, old Sym, old Mercy, Doomfist before shield buff, Tracer bomb, etc.
And as for the PTR changes? Crap, utter crap. Yet again, instead of buffing the roster of heroes that could very easily handle goats if given the right adjustments, they needlessly nerf a class that barely anyone plays anyways. It only makes tank mains want to not play tank, hence why Iām now going to only DPS for now on.
Rank: Low/mid Diamond.
Most played hero: Sombra
I agree with all of these except for the pharah changes and sym and Torb
pharah just feels more responsive and I love it
sym and Torb can roll teams if played correctly
For the main game things are seeming pretty fair. Widow maker still needs more counter (stop calling ashe a sniper she stand 0% in lang range duels vs widow or hanzo)
I have complaints about arcade though. CTF is my favorite mode though and hereās some balance changes that need fixing.
CTF
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Genji can NOT grab the flag while Dargonblade is active. Itās completely unfair since he gets a speed a boost and if you try to contest him he just chops you up so you poke him from afar and heās going going, goingā¦gone. Multiple other heroes cant interact with flag while their ults are on Brig is one. D.va drops the flag if she press self destruct (though keeps it getting into mech which is fair).
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Roadhog he can hold the flag and use all his abilities. He needs lose one, probably the hook cause without his heal heās an easy kill. It the same situation as Genji cept its raw health. If you try to stall him he just hooks you and removes you from his path with death. Leaves little counterplay if roadhog is alone with flag and your all alone left to stop him.
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Pharah she was perfectly fine when she couldnt fly with the flag. Her main assets is getting TO the flag not getting away with it. With her flying a flag its hard if not impossible for heroes to stop her. No rein ever. With as much utility as she brings to fight having full access to the map, holding he fly while flying is a serious oversight by devs. I think they had it at one point when it was where she couldnt fly and i still used her to great success. I dont understand why it was reverted.
All Comp CTF was when it was around was Hog Pharah Lucio Genji cause the way you could exploit em.
Lucio you cant nerf anymore without being hot garbage in CTF but itās fine as long as heās playing support and not that off-map wall riding capturing nonsense we had for a long time.
Total Mayhem
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Doomfist is cancer I get its total mayhem but Doomfist is a joke to fight against and it just starts a train of CC. He needs to have some second put on some skills. Even with the doomfist nerfs heās still OP every 3 seconds has a brand new 150 shields. Ana and Mei had to get toned down, doomfist needs it too.
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Sombra hacking isnt that much of issue but for fairness maybe lower her ult charge a smidge. I love sombra but even i know EMP makes or breaks mayhem fights.
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Winstonās bubble, He can literally drop a new 1000 hp bubble before the first expires. I cant count on fingers and toes how many times winston just stand on payload and drops bubbles doing NOTHING else and the match last 30 minutes cause of it. Hence why you need EMP most times to get anything done. Winston bubble needs a longer cooldown. Trying to get through 1000hp every 2 seconds is literally impossible for most heroes even with their ultimates being used.
Those are my main concerns.
As irritating as some heroes can be in Total Mayhem (i.e Winston, Sombra, Doomfist, Mei, etc), the mode itself is just a free-for-all of broken abilities. I donāt think itās that big of an issue, but if it were to be changed, I assume itād be low on the priority list.
Iām gold, and main Zenyatta, Bastion, Prisa and Doomfist.
I feel like their are quiet a few heroes who could use a little touch up. The only one in need of a larger buff is Doomfist.
Honestly, the current ptr scared me. Reaper is gonna be literally dominating the lower bracket (where I play, plat around 2800 not too much, but still way more than he is now), armourās getting a huge nerf so itās not as safe to hide behind tanks as it is now (Support main, so extra hiding for me), and with dvaās dm cool down getting longer, thereās gonna be a lot more things she canāt eat, like death blossom or grav,cause sheāll be on CD.
In terms of characters who need a buff/nerf imo: Mercyā¦? (please donāt rip my head off guysā¦), but just something to keep with the power creep in the game rn. And also Doomfist. As much as it is for me not to be slammed into the air and watch my life flash before my eyes as he charges his rocket punch, I think he got hit a bit too hard and needs some sort of buff, just so you can still play him. Like to Meteor Strike, perhaps? Just a hint, Blizzard
Agreed, I donāt think Doomfist is in a great spot at the moment.