Thank god it’s not a Mercy skin. I would hate to have to give my money to millionaires like xQc or Asmongold that’s already richer than most people here. If it’s Brigitte, then i can pass and not get it.
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With respect, if Blizzard had actually listened to some of the feedback on here instead of disregarding it entirely we could have avoided a number of issues that ultimately caused the playerbase to haemorrhage.
Some examples: Releasing Brig to counter dive instead of just nerfing dive. Reworking Mercy and then ignoring the feedback from the PTR that she was gamebreakingly overpowered. Ignoring the feedback that Sigmas design was breaking the tank line up, resulting in double shield. Ignoring the feedback about hitscans for over a year only to eventually finally admit that they were broken and put in a global fall off nerf. Allowing mass false reports and suspensions to carry on for years with little to no chance of appeal.
Obviously just like every community the forums do have their biases and are wrong just as often as they’re right. However, Blizzard would do well to stop ignoring everything on here. Clearly giving more credibility to other communities such as Reddit hasn’t worked or the game wouldn’t be in situation it’s currently in. The forums aren’t the ones who have influenced the decisions that damaged the game.
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Is spending a skin a marketing budget or is it having an employee who has an already set salary just doing their job making a skin with free pixels (building materials) while you pay them the same money they were making either way?
So this marketing budget is essentially just an employee(s) existing salary used with free building materials for a digital item that can be endlessly replicated and sold for the already existing paid salary cost. While i’ll admit this draws their attention from other potentially lucrative projects. No additional money is being spent. I guess what im saying is its more of a marketing tool than a budget.
I agree this might very well be the way forward for marketing for OW and games in general. BUT… A lot of people feel like they ONLY considered the fact that the streamers only got half the cost of the subs as payment so it was made to 3 subs ($18) instead of something more reasonable and in line with previous owl skins cost like 2 subs ($11-12). I think if they made it 2 subs instead of 3 a ton more people would support this decision. The way they did this pays ppl who haven’t supported the game in years and it costs more than any other skin previously in the games entire history (as far as i know).
So like i said this may be the new marketing world for OW but there are better ways to break through. It also loses its effect when you outright admit to buying these streamers biased opinions. The gig is already up. The secret is out. Any of the streamers on this list are essentially a list of streamers who’s opinion can no longer be trusted because they have (or will be) bought and paid for. They will now probably promote this game in a less than honest way in hopes that you pay them with other people’s money again by selling content in their name. Is this really the way forward? This specific price and method? Do you honestly believe this after all the community has said?
No. Hell no.
This is for marketing? Since when do companies expect people to pay for the advertising? It’s one thing to have people watch Twitch streamers to get items (i.e. watching the “ads”). But to require us to PAY the advertisers directly. No. That’s BLIZZARD’s job to pay for ads.
And I don’t have time for Twitch at all. I have limited time for entertainment. I play games. I don’t watch them.
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Agreed.
Because they make you jump through hoops instead of just charging $10 in-game.
And what % of the player base is a streamer? What % of the player base is in OWL? Why design stuff around a specific 1% and not another? You could say money but from what i can tell from que times in quick play you are focusing all your (blizzard’s) efforts in the wrong area. Some reason blizzard has had big focus on e-sports since Starcraft at the cost of the avg player’s fun.
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The way I see it is, I’d rather my money go to someone else who might need it, and make these streamers happy, even if I don’t watch them, than all of it go to the company, which already has so much money that 15 more bucks won’t change anything.
This is just stupid. I would love to suport some charitys with that. Ukraine would be a good example. But nooo. Support streamers that dont care for the game, make fun about it, never played it, will never play it again after that, etc. What did you thought aboout that Blizzard?
If OverWatch was a great game content creators would be flocking to play it and make money off it. It’s a good idea, we shall see how well it works out for all involved. Personally I don’t use twitch. I do watch video’s of some of these streamers on YouTube. Good luck to these folks. May viewers be willing to fork over some cash for a cosmetic.
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See, I made this post to complain about how I don’t like this promotion, the point is to at least attempt to tell Blizzard that I and maybe other people don’t like this event, because that’s how you get stuff fixed. And if my thread does absolutely nothing? Oh well at least I tried and voiced my concerns.
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Because if Mythic Skins are $10, this skin - that is a regular skin, barely even touching legendary status (yet alone Mythic), costs $12.
What a cry baby lol All that and you dont even really like the skin
“Content creators” are parasocial leeches
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and so it begins… blizzard and their path to become the next EA games
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Yeah, no. You know who creates content? Artists and programmers.
Streamers do not make content. They consume content.
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Are you sure its even being ‘heard’ as you claim. Because I don’t know which world Blizzard is living in but I think its crystal clear that this type of monetization, you know, the watchpoint pack, 3 subs to get a stupid skin, battle pass are something which is only heavily despised.
Well, I don’t even know why I even bother typing it, Diablo Immortal’s state just shows how disconnected Blizzard is with the entire gaming community in general, let alone just the Overwatch playerbase.
Sure you make money good money in the short term because whales will buy anything for the first few years, but I can place a blind bet, Overwatch 2 will not survive as long as Overwatch 1 did just because of the monetization. People only played the game with the god awful balance because it still had the ‘fun factor’ - you know, playing the game and getting rewarded for it.
With the battle pass? you’re basically making people pay SO THAT they can treat the game as a job, which is not something Overwatch players will do because its not an mmo rpg grind fiesta game, its a damn fps.
But hey, keep telling us that Blizzard actually listens, the clown skin we got was a good message they have sent, which we heard loud and clear.
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Why should I give money to a Streamer who already has tons of views and money?
There’s definitely a reason Blizz left out smaller streamers, and it doesn’t look good.
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So pay them yourselves put your money where your mouth is. This is a gross and cheap marketing tactic from a company that’s had quite a few monetization controversies.
Overwatch twitch also averaged below 20k viewers for over a year but somehow that’s a majority of your playerbase?
Just the fact that you have people like XQC (who was banned from the OWL btw) and others who are legit millionaires is messed up and you know it but anything for the precious twitch views that will tank after the first week of the beta am I right?
Also the streamers hyping up this skin when they trashed the remix skins that look similar just for a quick buck is scummy and a reason why we don’t wanna give these people money.
You guys are being heavily criticized on every social platform so don’t play it off as “just same old forums lol” own up.
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then Blizzard can pay em?
or fact that twitch/their subscribers pay em?
We, the players (many many of us, are not part of streaming world.
$15 to people unrelated to the company that makes what we paid for is dumb.
and forcing ppl who want said skin to pay them and never visit again is better why?
just admit blizzard rather players pay em than them.
as i can almost guarantee most ppl wont pay streamer for a skin.
in case others don’t know…the amount companies pay for advertising to streamers is a pretty penny.
don’t let em fool you into thinking its chump change.
Thats why there is an entire market around marketing other peoples stuff. (as its profitable)
…paid for by the players and not the company who benefits in end.
Blizzard is full blown EA at this point with their Greed recently.
Blizzard OW dev1: we need more $ as ppl arent buying lootboxes & the literal hundreds of millions OWL makes us isnt enoguh for corporate greed!
dev2: make game f2p so maybe ppl will?
dev3: make game f2p but have season pass.
dev4: make game f2p, but still require buying for the pve content, paid season pass, mystic paid skins, and let our players who are only reason we are employed foot bill on paying advertisement fees.
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So your Job being “Community Manager” only impacts “more realistically less than 1% of the player base”?
Go tell the shareholders so they can replace you with nothing.
Even a measly 1% doesn’t need a guy that’s being paid to tell the 1% how their opinions won’t matter much.
This garbage is so vile I am glad I finally decided to spit on the eager memories I once had with this game and company.
Wake up people.
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