I am glad someone like you (that people will listen to), made a post like this. “Content seems way too little”. Just because Fortnite adds new pointless things every week doesn’t mean that every game is like that. Compared to games like CS:GO and LoL, OW receives actually more (or comparable) amounts of content. Balance can be improved. But no dev team is perfect after all.
I can’t deny OW is a solid game… despite its… questionable balancing.
But ehm… one of the best games in the pst 30 years? I think not.
Overwatch gets more than games that are a decade old? Wut? In all seriousness, I would rather have LoL’s schedule for characters.
It’s like I’ve been saying for days.
It’s not the game that’s failed. It’s the players.
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I don’t play a lot of games - I stick to one and ride it till I know it’s time to leave.
This game is great just for the simple fact it’s kept my attention. I have heroes that i enjoy playing no matter the adversity the player base throws at me.
I see a bright future for OW.
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Oh, entirely. When the report of the reduced toxicity came out… I agree with it completely.
People could have their doubts, but playing it I figured… say 1/5 games someone says something dumb to get reported (usually near the end of a game), and as for just obscenely toxic behavior, It exists, I know I’ve run into it, but I can’t remember the last actual case because it was just that infrequent. Even to the degree of having a teammate berating other teammates in chat (mind you, I mostly just play QP at this point.).
Alternatively, as much of a fresh breath of air and great Apex is… I stopped playing it when within an hour or two I just exhausted to hear: “You guys are trash”, “Stop being a — and come here”, “----ing idiots”, and a few other examples (not one game after another, but say every other time someone was on a mic) where I thought… Reported… oh wait… that’s not a function in this game. It led to me just deciding I wasn’t in the mood for it anymore and logged off.
I guess main point. Toxicity exists in all games, and for Overwatch, hearing how horrible it is, I’m not seeing it anymore nearly as much as I am elsewhere.
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What this game is will very from person to person op cause our viewpoint including yours is opinion.
And as others have stated it is easier to see things your way when you main Rein. But us Sym players, Roadhog, Mercy, Bastion and so on might not have the same experience with hero change along with the other problems.
For me this game was a lot better in 2016 than it is now.
And as a fan of shooters this feels like a free to play game that I had to pay for with it’s lack of modes and content.
Ow makes you happy good for you. I thought I was getting a typical polished quality content rich Blizzard game.
Instead I got an esports focused game that so weirdly balanced and buggy that to me it still feels like it in Beta when compared to other games especially shooters.
Much like there exists the “Forum/Reddit” versions of characters (Forum Lucio, Forum Mercy, Forum Sombra, etc) we also have the Forum version of Overwatch.
Which is every game being filled with:
-Enough Toxicity that we owe “System of a Down” royalties.
-Smurfs and aim-bots on the other team… always
-Quitters and throwers on out teams… always
-And of course the dreaded Forum characters mentioned before (and those not mentioned).
All of that gets thrown together and set to a low boil in this soup pot we call the Forum Overwatch experience. Where nobody ever has fun ever, and everything is overpowered except for what we use.
First of all, it’s true, but you can say the same thing about most other games with a large following. I doubt there is a single forum that is full of people talking about how amazing and flawless the game is…
Gather around any water cooler at work and the discussions are of a similar fashion. Most people here are passionate about the game (even those of us who are not the “all important” Masters and GM players who’s opinions are invalid), and we talk about the shortcomings of the game because that’s how you improve right? By analyzing your shortcomings and taking steps to make it better?
That’s where most of our issues lie. We vocalize (or rather type) our opinions and feel validated when others have the same opinion. When those opinions get large enough and have mega threads dedicated to them then it’s safe to say there is a valid argument to be had for change.
The base problem in my opinion that hinders positive change, is that this game was made for esports. It wasn’t made with it in mind, but they literally took a scrapped Titan mmo project and figured out how they could salvage it as a money maker. My guess is the idea to create an esport moneymaker probably was a large part of the decision to scrap titan, although they will never admit it.
Anyway, I agree with most of your points, but OW is unlike any other game to this point in history and it’s becuase of it’s brilliance that it will get more criticism than most games. I think that’s a fine and healthy thing.
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Same, most of my games are a positive experience. But I do my part to keep things positive, I think a lot of the people who complain might actually be part of the problem. They probably say crap that tilts their teams and don’t even realize it.
I have been playing a butt ton of Hammond and Mercy the past month. Yeah so…
Exactly this. I’m fine with criticism. I even make criticism, but a lot of these complaint threads are just unconstructive salty players coming to the forums with their bias venting.
You obviously don’t follow my posts, I do a fair share of criticizing Blizzard. Always have. But I’m also not some chronically negative person either. I praise them when they deserve it.
Yes that’s a great example of how I’m not a freakin’ shill, right? Jee Wizzz- it’s like I can be both a praiser and create constructive criticism!!!? And I said I would return when they fixed the bugs. They fixed the bugs. I was honest to my word, most people wouldn’t have returned, I did.
I main the entire tank class (you have to so you can comp better and counter better). I will also flex into the entire support class. I’m not a one trick.
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Thank god. Someone finally said it.
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the forums in a nutshell
OWL bad
Doom bad
OW is dead game
Jeff bad
Brigitte Bad
Rein Bad
GOATS bad
Mercy is god
My opinion right, your opinion wrong.
Pretty much. I guess that’s why I felt the need (mostly for myself) to create this thread. It’s crazy browsing these forums, but on the rare occasion, you do get a very well written constructive post. I always love seeing those.
When I started playing this game, my three favorite heroes were Mercy, DVa, and Pharah. Mercy and DVa have both turned into versions of themselves that I dislike, if not actively hate. Pharah is nearly unplayable because this is a game of synergy instead of counters… and there is exactly one hero who synergizes with Pharah, so I don’t pick her.
After this has happened… why should I try to get invested with this game again? The one hero that kinda pulls me in right now is Brigitte… yeah…
Also… if you’ve been gaming for any length of time… I honestly feel bad for you if OW is still in your top ten.
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I can see where that can be frustrating, but I never played the game around my hero picks, or asked others to play for my hero picks. This is why the game has not been stale for me. As a tank player (who mains the entire tank roster), I can adapt to any team comp, and counter the enemy team for the best possible outcome.
If I see my dps picking dive heroes, I pick Winston/Hammond/D.Va.
If the supports are slower and dps picks slower non dive heroes, then I will play Rein or off tank to Zarya to synergize with them.
If there are already tank players, I know EXACTLY which supports to choose to help synergize with my dps (Genji I pick Ana for example) and tank players.
This is why the game isn’t stale for me. I have a big range of heroes and my gameplay choices are built around counter-play and team comp synergy… this way the game never gets dull for me.
But… This is just me. I think the people to get burned out with this game are the tricks and dps players with a limited hero pool.
Its not awful, just ok
Where aprox. 50% at best could be considered viable…and dont get me started on personality
Where most of them are choke spam fests
Of wich most are only aviable once a Year
Just not very often
Yeah, something like reapers 50 % Lifesteal was just a git gut mather
I am incredibly grateful that overwatch is in my life. These are the days I will miss when Im older
I agree, flex is the key, but some people prefer complaining about their all time Main, like it’s the end of the world. This is what the game is about : Different gameplays.
I like Rein a lot, but can’t play only one character forever.
However now, man… those crazy boops ! It’s like Carmaggedon with the pinball debuff.
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Exactly this. Yes I play a butt load of Reinhardt, but I’m not a one trick. I main the entire tank roster, and will flex into any support to help synergize with my team (and now there are more supports, even supports are more complex that they themselves help to counter specific dps heroes (or help their own survival, so even they need to switch it up).
This is why there are so many Reinhardt players who don’t care if the meta shifts to dive, or whatever, because we understand the main tank role is there to synergize, and when Blizzard pull the plug on a meta, we get to enjoy a playing more of a different tank. It works out well for us. Not so much for the one tricks and players with limited hero pools.
You will always have those games that you will cherish when you are younger. For me, it was Dark Age of Camelot and the launch of Star Wars Galaxies. I also had blast playing the first Gears of War with my buddies.
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Yeah, a smaller one would actually be better at this point.
I’ll give you that one, the maps are good, up until Paris.
Most of the arcade is pretty bad, and even the better ones are extremely random.
The events are recycled.
Yeah, that’s a pretty big problem.
You don’t need to play against a full meta comp. A few meta heroes can just totally run over a weird team comp… Like there are a bunch of die hard dps players like me, and one Reinhardt constantly destroying us gets tiring really fast.
Just by holding right click and pressing Q once in a while he can carry games, while we achieve nothing, despite putting out best into the game.