Not for nothing, but this sounds an awful lot like, “Well you know, just, god works in mysterious ways or something”.
Couple of things
1: we don’t know for sure they have internal stats to monitor, or what stats are even monitored
2: even if they do, we don’t know that they actually bother to track them
3: even if they do, we don’t know that they are capable of understanding them
4: even if they do, we don’t know that they actually care to do anything about it
5: even if they do, we don’t know that they have permission from higher-ups to make the fixes that are necessary
6: even if they do, we don’t know that they have the capability of acting upon it successfully
7: even if they do, they always gravitate towards making already high-use heroes better, instead of using any brainstorming sessions to introduce new solutions to these problems
One of the driving reasons Cassidy is so prolific is that someone decided he needed to be the answer to almost every problem in this game. And if he isn’t the answer, then somehow the question must be wrong.
Whatever objective they are trying to achieve in buffing Cassidy, would have been better for the game’s health if they tried nerfing the problem or utilizing any of the 15 other DPS tool sets to facilitate a solution.
Yes, they have a very clear and very heavy bias, and it’s killing this game’s fun.
I can give you a list, there is a lot of them. I have gotten raw aggregated stats out of Blizzard before.
They do.
They do, mostly.
They do.
Here is where it gets rough. They do have a lot of constraints, and they have to keep the pro player base happy, because of the focus on OWL.
Kinda, he was the solution to Tracer, and when they made a second, (Brig) the backlash was SO bad they never made the third.
I mean, how do you make a Tracer counter which is high skill and works? Actually sitting down and giving it a try, you find it is REALLY hard, especially if you don’t want to utterly monster a bunch of other heroes in the game.
There just isn’t any mechanics which really work for it.
One of the driving reasons Cassidy is so prolific is that someone decided he needed to be the answer to almost every problem in this game. And if he isn’t the answer, then somehow the question must be wrong.
Whatever objective they are trying to achieve in buffing Cassidy, would have been better for the game’s health if they tried nerfing the problem or utilizing any of the 15 other DPS tool sets to facilitate a solution.
Yes, they have a very clear and very heavy bias, and it’s killing this game’s fun.
When accountability is so low they can do this so blatantly
It’s a shame
I ran out of likes for the day but I’d like your post if I could
Look, i’d not say bias because Jeff has stated multiple times that Genji and Hanzo are the overall favorite heroes of the team if i remember correctly and yet Genji doesn’t even come close to Cass levels of power. They just for some non sense reason think he is weak on some internal playtests. Their tests seem to be equivalent to someone going to practice range and hitting headshots on a standing still target and thinking the hero is overpowered.
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Now that is the aggregated stats, they have events for each of these, which contain when it happen, from who, to who, on which map, if they won lost or draw, who was in the team, what SR people were, which heroes, etc etc etc etc…
I think it is %up time of ult compared to match time. But that is a guess. It’s 4am here and I got stuff to do… oh man, this morning, so I need to get some sleep.
Anyway, I hope you find the list interesting anyway. I’ll try to get answers for you.
Well considering that people claiming to be GM come onto the forums all the time and talk about how they play Cassidy wrong, I’m not actually surprised that the devs would want to give him more power to compensate.
But if we assume this is true, that these are stats they track, and that they do indeed track them, I’m curious if they bother putting it into context. I always tell people that truth exists in context, not in a vacuum. Like as a quick example, a lot of people (myself included) probably have low accuracy with certain heroes because of the use of suppressive fire. It doesn’t necessarily mean that the hero needs more accuracy, a larger weapon clip, or faster projectiles.
Still, the door is wide open on the latter points regardless. There seem to be very few arrows in the devs’ quiver, and the game is suffering from the overuse of them.
Most players form opinions based only on the narrow scope of how they perceive the game - their rank and their mains. If they’re GM that doesn’t make them infallible, it just means they have a different perspective than the average player. It’s the devs’ job to balance the game for every character across every rank, which is not an easy thing to do and sometimes they get it wrong. I wish this forum would be a little more constructive (okay, a lot more) and understanding that the devs are not incompetent and are looking at things from a different perspective than they are.
You know, I would never level an accusation that their job as a whole is easy. But there’s certain fundamental parts of their job that are as basic and straightforward as making sure you have a solid foundation before you begin building your house.
That they repeatedly mess up things they were supposed to learn from, is what is frustrating players. They they can’t or won’t learn what the underlying issues are in this game, after most people have already gotten around to identifying them for the devs, frustrates players.
I mean, if you had a taxi/uber service that repeatedly was not able to find your house to pick you up…even when you’re standing on the sidewalk trying to wave them down? Or that UPS repeatedly sends packages back to sender because they don’t believe your address exists (right in the middle of a normal populated area, this apartment complex has been here for over 30 years now this ain’t rocket science). Or you keep getting a burger from McDonald’s that lacks an actual meat patty?
Eventually the fact that a business keeps missing the basic essentials gets under your skin. Maybe not all the feedback isn’t 100% constructive, but exactly how patient are the customers supposed to be? You shouldn’t be working a food line if getting a meat patty on a bun is that much of a struggle for you, and customers shouldn’t have to jump over the counter and keep making the burger themselves just to get something done.
How many “whoopsies!” do you wish to grant them? Because my patience with it has come to an end. They can absolutely have a different perspective, but at some point they need to learn how to correct and adjust whatever discrepancies there are between their perspective and the in-game reality players face.
Only and litteraly only if she walks into fb range…
Ashe doesn’t need a pocket, if you pocket hanzo body ohk’s her in the legs.
Torb turret disables ambushes
Phara is never close and sees a lot more (same with echo)
If you can hit her as hitscan why not ohk her as ashe while beeing able to go to Highground (same for hanzo)
If fb is THE tracer counter… Then i should be t500 on tracer bc its one of the easiest things to avoid as tracer. Just my opinion from 420h
What i can’t avoid is a hitscan headshots killing me
A 150dmg body shot (which a boosted hanzo can spam like every 0.8sec)
Thats litteraly it, i can’t react to those unless i predict them to hit.
Speak out against it or start pushing for buffs for other heroes too. The community needs to be very vocal about how tired they are with favouritism.
Nope.
If Blizzard refuse to nerf Tracer and start buffing Mccree to contest her the only remaining solution is to buff a huge chunk of the dps roster too. Otherwise they’re going to be completely unviable almost all the time.
