The way you guys are treating the developers is beyond sickening

Do we know this for certain? Otherwise that’s an assumption. As for forum profiles, I disagree. PTR had plenty of warnings too, but the hero still went live unchanged, long before the read posts counter was highlighted in a later megathread.

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WyomingMyst has said it confidently multiple times, so I’d say so.

I don’t understand what you mean.
If a change on the PTR went through despite warnings on the forums, that is not definitively indicative that the developers didn’t read the warnings.

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No offence intended to anyone concerned, but to be perfectly honest that’s not necessarily confirmed data. We can only hope that the information that they have access to, or have been given, is correct and accurate. This type of action is often what would and should normally happen on an official forum regarding a popular product/service, but may not necessarily quite be the case on this occasion unfortunately.

It’s not indicative that they did read any of the feedback either…


I think it’s reasonably safe to say at this point that we’re likely going to disagree with each other no matter how we respond to one another, so in the interest of not possibly wasting each others time I think it might be wise to say we agree to disagree and leave it at that :slight_smile: :+1:.

I won’t be posting any further replies in this thread

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Well, I don’t know the specifics, but I’m pretty sure he has access to people at Blizzard (Tech support team maybe?) and he seems very careful to make sure his information is correct before stating it.

Yes, that’s the point. We both agree its useless information then and thus using it to formulate arguments is not really fair or valid.

Okay, toodles :+1:

Overwatch was designed to create toxic people.
Even the nicest people will become toxic eventually.
A group based game without real teams. Or anything close to teamwork.
Where people get rewarded for being bad team members and doing their own thing, ignoring team members.

But i agree, being nice to others and getting things done by others, it is better to stay nice.(in most cases)

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No, I am toxic by nature, but I have enough self control to not direct it at my teammates.

My sister is sweet as can be. She did not magically turn toxic. Albeit, she hardly wants to play the game anymore because of the toxicity.

Well put, I also think its just the way people are on the Internet - thanks to anonymity they do away with civilities often just to make a quick emotional statement to the devs. It was clear he was giving his opinion of this question of “powercreep” which is so easy to say when you can find any example of increased damage, abilities or c/d. All that really matters is how the game plays, I really don’t care if Soldier now does 10 more points of damage if its all relatively balanced out. I think that was his main point.

You think community is going to just trust and respect the devs after literally ruining the game for 3 years? After mercy patch, after brig patch. I can go on more. Game unplayable for 6 months every time.

This post is disgusting. This guy says genji and soldier are not a throw pick when baptiste gun DOES MORE DMG and HAS LESS SPREAD.

wdym.

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I guess community and developers have opposite intentions for this game.

And yes, there is no trust and respect left for developers, after everything they did. Besides, they didn’t do anything to regain lost trust and respect.

Because people want actions. Not empty words. Not empty and meaningless “your feedback is important to us” followed by months of silence and doing opposite of what those words supposed to mean. As it makes them no better, than this guy:

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What did they do? Make one of the most successful FPS ever? Keep it running for years on just cosmetics, not selling QoL or power creep in the process? Keep updating it instead of releasing a yearly rehash?

Sounds quite terrible. Totally. :clap:

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what’d I do

Yes, TF2 is very good game.

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What are you talking about? He didn’t say anything wrong. It’s just majority of people doesn’t have clue about what are the actual issues are.

He says powercreep exists, but its not as severe as everyone makes it out to be my dude

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Say it louder for the people in the back!!! :speaking_head:

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For me its the best patch since long time. so I have faith.

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All those people calling industry professionals (Kaplan and team) names are not only ungrateful, but also quite ignorant. Their little “careers” wouldn’t exist without the Overwatch Dev team hard work.

Now, on the other hand, I think this is proving that to avoid this continuous backfire and also huge amount of speculation Blizz shoul up their work in transparency and communication. This dripfeed strategy worked in the past, now it’s tired and hurtful to the community.

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Agreed. The behavior of some of these so called “community figures” is downright shameful.

When did he post that?

They marketed the game as a casual fun experience with a hero for everyone. In the beginning the focus wasn’t on competitive gaming, so a lot of casual gamers were drawn in, they invested time in the game, and then Blizzard decided that the majority of their playerbase was no longer their core demographic. The game was refocused, and changes to heroes etc. were done accordingly; thus alienating many of the active players and shoving a wedge between factions in the player community. Constructive criticism resulting from their change of focus was ignored or worse, and people got increasingly frustrated and disgruntled. The result is a very frustrated and disgruntled community with many players who do not feel like they matter anymore because they are no longer considered part of the target demographic anymore, which they used to feel like they were.

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