Doesnt anyone else think that barely does anything, 0.25 degree spread increase leads to what exactly? 4-6 less dmg per shot from a good range away?
Boosters as well just 10 less dmg?
That changes her burst capability by like what 30 dmg at best if the characters hitboxes are small.
I dont think thats really gonna do much, with the Zarya nerf being actually sufficient i think, D.va just gets even better pretty much, i dont think that this will change her dominant pickrate, is it just me or they needed to be a bit more heavy handed on these?
How do you explain her dominant pickrate right next to Zarya then?
I think she is actually over-powered, in the same vein as Sigma, she does too much of everything, good mobility, good damage, good damage mitigation and good survivability.
I think they gotta nerf the most OP Tanks to say Rein’s lvl, including D.va, Zarya, Wins and Sigma and i dont think this really did enough at all to get her to Rein’s lvl.
It’s amazing how 25 damage boosters constantly ping-pongs between being literally unnoticeable when it’s being nerfed and a massive increase whenever it’s reverted.
Dva is pretty much the only tank that can actually spycheck sombra + shes one of the best tank to deal with sojourn. So with sombra falling out I think it gives people more reason to play monkey
I think genji works pretty well with dva compared to tracer. But since hes getting thrashed then I can see people going for monkey more to execute a more effictive dive.
Dont get me wrong shell still be S tier. But I dont think she’ll be hard dominating like current zarya/sojourn
While she can definetly spycheck Sombra well, Sombra also gives her a hard time by disabiling her best tools,
Against Soujourn i think Winston is actually better because Soujourn’s ultimate for some DUMB reason cannot be Defence Matrix, appearently.
Wich reminds me Sombra is gonna get nerfed too, making D.va even better, Sombra was actually good into D.va btw.
Genji is actually best with Winston btw.
Yeah and S tier characters are overpowered and dominant in my world, specially if they are tanks.
What rank do ya play might i ask? Mercy is just as popular as ever.
What, Rein is one of the weakest tanks atm, right next to Queen and Doom.
What, how, 10 less dmg,
10, it happens once, 10 damage, thats 5% of a squishys health.
Honestly, I didn’t think that she really needed a nerf to begin with. She’s strong, but not really OP. These nerfs are bigger than they seem. The booster damage will keep her from bursting down people quite as fast. The spread will affect her ability to poke, but won’t matter up close.
Regardless, she was underperforming before her spread buff and booster damage buff. So, they just pulled back a little. It’s the right call to try the happy medium.
What we really need is a Doomfist buff and a Junker Queen buff to go with the nerfs. Nerfs to other tanks alone won’t make those two viable. Because if you dumpstered D.Va, you’d just have Winston in every game or maybe Sigma.
She did, she needs more i think, she will still be much stronger than most tanks when mobility is applicable, they nerfed her dmg by like maybe 2-4% from mid range, from upclose it barely changes.
Imo thats not what did her in, it was the 50% increase in Defence Matrix uptime PLUS everything else.
50% uptime increase.
IMO, Doom and Queen needs buffs to catch up with the balanced Tanks like Orisa/Rein while D.va, Zarya, Sigma and Winston needs nerfs to bring them down to their levels.
Sombra gives every tank a hard time. But dva is the only tank that gives sombra a hard time. Makes sense?
Ive gotten my OC eaten tho? Also dva can deny her stupid slow ability
It was a skill matchup imo. A good dva can deny sombra quite well and vice versa
Genji works best with winston yes, but after his nerf Its gonna be tracer. And tracer is better with winston than dva imo.
Like dva was S tier for the majority of ow1s lifespam. It just needs the right person to get full value out of her which is really hard to pull off consistently
I disagree. These nerfs won’t make her unviable. But we already know, for a fact, that just slightly lower stats before made her bad. So, more nerfs would be a mistake. She’s also by far the most popular tank even when she’s not in a good place. Lots of people like playing her more than they like winning. There’s a ton of D.Va one tricks.
I don’t understand this comment. She got buffs AFTER the DM buff because even with the increased uptime she was underpowered.
I’m not sure I think that Orisa and Rein are balanced. I actually think Rein at least could use a buff. Winston and Sigma are perfectly balanced and should be the new tank standard.
In fact i think Zarya is the best tank against Sombra cuz bubble dispells hacking and saves from EMP, D.va was a close second, and yes with Sombra nerfed tanks get EVEN more opressive,
Is that so? then i was lied to, must investigate.
Nah, theres barely any skill on randomly spy-checking and hoping you find the invisible character, imo.
The thing ure kinda failing to understand i think is that D.va is best played defensively while Winston is offensively, Tracer will be played with either of them (maybe) depending on your strategy, D.va is still gonna be just as strong when u want to play defensively.
I agree, and they overbuffed her coming to OW2, whatever data they were looking at saying she was underperforming was probbably bad data.
Oh, my bad i did get the timeline of buffs/changes confused, it seems, the issue tho still stands that whatever data they were looking at that said she was under-perfoming was likely biased to lower-lvl play and badly pictured cuz shes so popular.
And they gotta cut her power by something in the same veins of 50% less Defence Matrix uptime to get her more in line with tanks like Rein/Orisa.
I think they are well balanced in fact, not too opressive, with clear weaknesses and instead Winston, Sigma, D.va and Zarya are ridiculously opressive, putting games in the hands of good tank players even more than needed.
Wow, such dmg, i just fail to see how 10 less dmg on a 4s cooldown that is used mainly for mobility does barely anything.
Now thats gonna make her weak, not being able to clear the weakest DPS’s weakest ability with one press of a button, what will she do!?
No srs, that doesnt really nerf her enough, also makes almost no sense that her flying into you does less dmg than an quick melee, now half of it but thats besides the point.
There’s no reason to believe that. The betas had a lot of high level players, streamers, pros. They made up a higher percentage of players than normal. And Blizzard was getting direct feedback from them.
If I had to make an assumption, I would assume that the data from the beta was actually weighted towards high level play. Plus they already had the DM buffs in OWL when Junker Queen was dominating.
There is, look at how dominant D.va is atm, and she was always a high-skill ceilling, high-skill floor (worst at low ranks in the common definition) character that should be balanced with the skilling as a focus (with like 90% of things).
I think it was cuz Zarya at low level play soft counters her while at high lvl play its no such thing and Queen was incredbly overpowered so every data for tanks was probbably in shambles.
They gotta look at it how it is NOW with Queen being actually somewhat balanced and high-lvl play being more refined, shes literally the second best tank in the game, next to the most broken hero in the game, dont u think that is a bit much?
They have to take power away from tank players and make the role more balanced, what better way than to nerf the opressive incredbly overpowered tanks atm?
