The Mercy Rework - Part 1: An Introduction

[Cleopatra-21937]

@Titanium-1686

they want her to be heavily focused on healing.

Then said healing should be effective at saving lives, for starters.

[Rezeak-2251]

@Titanium-1686

And yet, every other support still has opportunities to make big plays in ways that are consistent to their design and themes.

I’d argue mercy does too. It wasn’t what I was talking about it was more that you have to play the picks that are good and play agency across all supports has been reduced since game release.

@Titanium-1686

She can reinforce an existing tide, sure, but as soon as the fight becomes a 4v6 in the enemy team’s favor, or even a 5v6 with an un-Rezzable target (whether it be because it is unsafe or because Resurrect is on cooldown), the fight is no longer in Mercy’s hands.

As much as any other supports.

As for Valk… it’s an ult that can change the tide of the fight and when used well can force a team into a situation where they have to counter ult well or lose.

[Yogi-1252]

No matter how small, she has had her ult changed a few times and a overhaul. Actually it is relevant when these topics seem to always come forth when she is not or near the meta.

[Dysvalence-1915]

@Titanium-1686

It means the developers wanted Mercy to have a very high healing throughput, IE: Lots of (non-burst) healing over a given time frame. A fire hose rather than a tipping bucket (which are those massive buckets they have at water parks).

In a world before Moira maybe Mercy might have gotten that niche but I feel like the devs already locked themselves out of that option. Not like Moira has much else to do except spray pee.

[k3ith-2880]

only 5 more days til part 2 LETS GO

@Dysvalence-1915

In a world before Moira

read this is the cinema film describer deep voice voice

[Cleopatra-21937]

Which is weird, as Moira also had her healing reduced.

[MrNegotiator-2325]

@ChibiFox-11511

Not and survive while being hunted down… trust me, as a Bastion main… I know how enemies react to any chance to kill you.

I wouldn’t decrease the cast time anymore… At the very least to be safe…

If you disagree, that’s fine.

@ChibiFox-11511

I want Mercy to be capable of resurrecting a team.
That’s it.

That’s fair.

[ChibiFox-11511]

@MrNegotiator-2325

@ChibiFox-11511

I want Mercy to be capable of resurrecting a team.

That’s it.

That’s fair.

YES IT IS.

People need to understand this… especially the fact that every hero needs a hero moment.

As in, something more than numbers, more than “The enemy can kill me whenever haha but I guess I’ll win if they’re blind”

No.

Every hero needs an earth shatter… every hero needs a breaking it down moment. A moment that says “I’m not letting you defeat me.”

[AKJ-11308]

Resurrect on cooldown is a broken ability, it should be part of Valk.

It seems like there’s a Mercy in every game of quickplay.

[SNAFU19K-1315]

@Dysvalence-1915

In a world before Moira

Also read it in the movie epic voice, if only we could go BACK, back to the past.

[SNAFU19K-1315]

Its almost like there is a specific category of heroes that is very very catered to, one that is so catered, that it has defined basically all metas, and practically all balancing across the board save for a few and continues to be completely toxic and rampant.
But on the other side, the devs cant do anything because the majority of the “pros” and the “E-Celebs” play this category of heroes, so that cant be touched, not ever ever ever.

[xx9-1969]

@barbieǃ-1965

A single ultimate should NOT reverse / undo 2 ultimates (ex. Grav, Dragon or Nano, Blade etc.)

What?

I shouldn’t be able to throw a grav at a Nanoblade?

Wait until you hear about Sleep Dart

[Megadodo-11847]

@AKJ-11308

Resurrect on cooldown is a broken ability, it should be part of Valk.

except rez isnt broken…and no, it shouldnt be part of Valk, because the time one needs/wants to rez isnt generally the same time when one needs/wants to valk

[DeadSpace-11845]

Okay but when you’re done with this can you read me a bedtime story

[Cleopatra-21937]

But you don’t reverse already dealt damage. If you throw graviton after Nanoblade already sliced most of your teammates, you still lost this fight.

Main complaint about MR always was it being used after fight is assumed to be over. While other ults are more “in your face” and your team can simply throw in more damage to overcome them.

MR, on the other hand, relied on your good judgement, but had less obvious clues, such as Mercy not being among players you killed.

[Fraevar-2777]

I’m glad to see you back in action, Titanium. And you made a great video, with good points. The sheer boredom that set in after you got over how OP Mercy 2.0 was, can’t be described. And now she just…exists.

[Titanium-1686]

@BroomLord-1424

none of that can be true
she has one of the most consistent healing in the game second to only zenyatta though harmony orb is allot less healing

And you just gave an example as to why consistent healing =/= main-healer. Zenyatta has the most consistent healing in the game, but he’s still an off-healer because his healing output is so low.

Mercy’s healing having the quality of “consistent” does not make her a main-healer. Her healing output must also be high enough to contest considerable amounts of damage flung at her team, and right now, it just isn’t.

@BroomLord-1424

so you can and “should” have gold healing while playing mercy

No, I really shouldn’t. There’s a reason I always have an Ana or Baptiste on my team while playing Mercy these days.

[EvelUp-1190]

I don’t really dislike current Mercy, but I definitely think that more could be done to make her more engaging & turn a fight. While I may not be 100% on board with MR (closer to 80%), I do hope Mercy gets a serious look-at come OW2.

But with OWL being the first in line for OW2, I sadly don’t think the general community would be the one you’d need to convince.

I think the only real chance of seeing mass res return would be if the devs eventually added a gamemode where hero talents could be used in pvp (likely due to community demand). They’d be very hesitant, but they were hesitant to support death-match as well, and it turned out rather popular despite the obvious flaws.

[Megadodo-11847]

Mercy’s current state is among the best states she has ever been in, imo

as such, she needs no changes whatsoever at this time…and absolutely does not need to return to the old mass rez days

also – given how most reworks have gone, I can’t understand how anyone who claims to love the character…whether it be Mercy or any of the other characters…would wish the horror that is a rework on said character

[Titanium-1686]

@Rezeak-2251

play agency across all supports has been reduced since game release.

Uh, no?

If anything, Support as a category has more agency now than it did on launch. Lucio’s agency skyrocketed with his rework before the OG Dive Meta. Ana released as an absolute juggernaut of support agency, and since then Baptiste has replaced her as the benchmark.

@Rezeak-2251

As for Valk… it’s an ult that can change the tide of the fight

If and only if your team manages to get their crap together, which again, isn’t within your control. If you pop Valkyrie, the fight is still a coin flip, especially if the enemy team has a better ultimate at their disposal in their support lineup… which is to say, they have any support that isn’t Mercy.

With other supports (especially Baptiste, Lucio, and Zenyatta), you can turn a fight that is almost certainly lost into an even fight, or potentially into a winning fight, without needing additional input from your team. With Mercy, to get anywhere you need your team to be better than the enemy team. You’re stuck with “Do what little you can and hope that’s enough.”