It was hard for me to see the facts myself, and then Mercy had her 9th, and then her 10th nerf. And then I started doubting these nerfs as “doing anything.”
I’m more of a “wait and see”, long term type of person, so excuse me if I believe that this failure of a rework has time and time again, proved my theory right in that nerfing Mercy instead of reverting her Rez back to Q has done absolutely nothing to her current state. I’m looking forward to seeing her pick and winrates once again, rise back up to the top for the 11th time.
#RevertMercy
Cult? Oh that’s you projecting your prejudice on mercy mains against someone you hardly know. That’s fine then, I forgive your misconception
Also almost 500 likes = crazy Mercy suggestion? Hmmm, not sure about that. I don’t think they was the crazy one in that theory. I don’t think the idea of “If I don’t agree with it, it’s crazy” gives you a very strong argument there either. You may want to try again
I don’t only play on console. (lel)
You asking me if I’m biased based on bad Ana and Moira’s is irrelevant to this discussion. I’ve seen Moira’s and Ana’s hitting 18k+ healing before Mercy’s nerf, so that data is both subjective and unreliable. Just because you personally seen more anas and moiras healing, does not make it fact, so unless you have actual documented data that proves this, I am inclined to just write that off as a subjective opinion.
I guess we’re not going to mention how Reinhardt still has a higher pickrate than Mercy on avg. Are you suggesting we nerf him too? Also, since the nerfs, Mercy is still the top healer at the time of this post, so… not sure what you’re trying to prove. Maybe if you mentioned Ana and Moira being played more 2-3 weeks from now, you may actually have a good argument.
Yes, the Revert Mercy cult. You don’t speak for all the Mercy mains son. You speak for a very small yet incredibly vocal minority (all members on the forums as a matter of fact are a very small percent of the OW population). I play Mercy as well and enjoy her and find her fun. You don’t speak for me, nor do you represent me. You are a small loud group that unfortunately gives other Mercy players a bad name.
The fact that something is liked does not make it empirically valid. Thank god, Blizzard doesn’t listen to you. The idea is absolute bonkers and will make Mercy OP the likes of which we’ve never seen. Mass Rez + Burst AoE heal at the same time, get outta here, you guys are delusional
Oh and by the way, bring more smurfs to up-vote that thread. The number of people that have liked it with 0 posts on the forum and very low level (below 100) is staggering. You think you are so clever, go and check how many of those profiles are alt accounts
Multi rez is a trash ability that made me stop playing the game, i came back after the mercy rework because i hate it so much. No arguements about balance or win rates can convince me to not hate that ability. It ruins my games. Also the fact that she bounces back after nerfs doesnt mean they were a complete failure, it means weve moved in the right direction an amount and will continue to work on it. The bouncing of pickrates and such is just a result of people overreacting. Absolute number of nerfs means nothing, theyre edging her in a direction not just lopping off her head.
Yeah and opinion, there are tons of people already talking about it even here/reddit/youtube/pro streamers etc. How many nerfs resurrect got already? from Valk 1.0 to now? and still doesn’t seem to be balanced? that should’ve tell you something.
Did it completely, Mercy with that strat broke the game for everyone that didn’t play Mercy, tanks-dps almost everyone hated to die on point because Mercy demanded it because "Is more useful if everyone just stop playing the game and die so I can pull a 5 mas res "
Completely fake, Mercy have never been a troll pick like Symmetra/Bastion or Torbjorn, characters that since OW released haven’t be viable. Mercy was not viable in some modes like KOTH or in some attack maps, but that would be to much for your people, you want Mercy to not only to be viable but a must pick.
Because she isn’t the only healer anymore , we got Ana - > Moira - > Brigitte, the game changed a lot since Season 3 and now we are in 11. And of course with Valk 1.0 Mercy was ten times better than old one, everyone who played this game since then remember how broken Mercy with 1.0 Walk was, completely out of mind.
By who? as you said “Opinions” because your never had to deal against a Flying Phara 2.0 who moved extremely fast, and it was impossible to take down by normal measures except a Deadeye or a Widow Headshot?.
Why would you? when your character ;
-Break the game
-Break the SR system (People climbing from silver to GM)
-Had little almost no counter play beside getting spawn camped so you couldn’t press Q.
-Easy to use with no skill required like aiming,reloading , taking care about CD management etc
Why would you like a Rework? is like when you play a MMROPG and your class is better than anyone giving you the most easy path to be on top 1 while the other classes cannot even compete?.
I’ll give you a nice hard pill to swallow, Mercy was broken in the past and was ten times even more broken with Valk 1.0 to the point Blizz had to nerf her over and over trying to balance things REFUSING to get rid of Resurrect because they know that can be to much for one change to another so drastically
I’ll say this, despite everything that’s happened since the Mercy rework, one thing I will never forgive Blizzard for is that they didn’t even attempt to nerf Mass Rez with reduced ranged, LoS checks , etc. Instead they just completely reworked it to get Mass Rez out of the game in time for the OWL…
And… Neither do you? I’m glad we both settled that conundrum. Thanks for giving your opinion though.
Spoiler alert btw: You can put down the tin-foil hat, “revert mercy cults” don’t exist. Just people who aren’t afraid to see everything as “fine and dandy” with a rework that has failed more than 10 times. I prefer to be a realist, and when something has proven multiple times that it won’t work, I am inclined to not trust it anymore and go back to the basics.
Also you assumed that almost 500 of those likes are all from smurfs and alt accounts. Do you have any proof of this? Otherwise I am going to write you off as once again, projecting your bias. No… That’s unhealthy… I prefer to be better than be part of the “Mercy hatred cult.” It seems just as bad as your non-existent “revert mercy cult” you seem to constantly refer to.
I think they have a plan laid of for Mercy we just don’t know it yet. I know they gave a reason for the healing nerf but it just seemed to come at a random time. (all the support changes really lol). Hopefully they find a way to balance rez or just remove it cause its been almost a year of this nonsense and everyone is tired.
Are you comparing Rez on E to Valkyrie or Mass res to Valkyrie? On both fronts you’d be incorrect. I’m pretty confident that Valkyrie has had more nerfs than Mass res and Rez on E combined. So… Not sure what you’re trying to prove there bud. If it’s telling me anything, it’s that the rework has been a failure, and a revert is the best option. Not sure what you want me to say lol.
Also it looks like you’re going into the typical anti-mercy hate remarks that so often creep up when logic is applied as to why Mercy was better back in 1.0… *yawn. I’ve addressed 99% of the rest of your post in the past, so instead of repeating myself. I’ll just reference my hard to swallow pills.
You are incorrect. Completely real… sigh here we go.
So you admit that Valkyrie made Mercy more than a must-pick than Mass res then? If not, then you will need to admit that Mercy was a troll pick when she had mass res BEFORE her invincibility buff. You can’t try to prove a point in Valk as being broken and then deny that Mercy was a troll pick before given her mass res invincibility buff. That’s just being in denial at that point
Mercy didn’t break the game.
The SR exploit was a bug entirely separate from Mercy, and was patched before she was given a rework. So that’s irrelevant. Mercy didn’t break the SR system, the SR system broke Mercy.
Hmmm…
No counter play
Was looked at as a troll-pick hero
Pick one.
Also, mass res had no counterplay? Oh… I guess these plays never existed.
Let’s not lie to ourselves. If you didn’t blow all your ults at once, Mercy’s mass res was easily countered.
I want a revert, not a rework. What are you referring to?
Okay… Then you agree with me, because I also think that Valk is a failure of a rework. What are you trying to prove to me there? I’ve been telling you this entire time that Valk is a failure, and that they need to revert. You seem to be confused with the point of this thread. I’m not asking to revert her to Valk 1.0. I’m asking to revert her to MERCY 1.0. When she was a troll pick with mass res on Q. I’m asking for them to tweak her from there, where she wasn’t a must pick for 5 months straight. If you dislike Valk as well, you should be agreeing with me.
Another hard pill to swallow however. They’re not removing res. Sorry. It isn’t happening… The devs know that people love Mercy because of res, and they know how iconic it is. They’ve said multiple times in the past that res is not being removed, so the only other alternative would be a revert.
As a heavy Mercy player since beta with lots of time in high masters and GM, I believe this to be the heaviest nerf she’s received. It is extremely difficult to keep people alive through even one source of damage right now. A huge percentage of deaths on my team this week have happened while my beam was on them and it doesn’t feel great. I also have to spend a lot more time healing and topping people off in general, which limits the time I have to move around or damage boost or do whatever else I might’ve done otherwise.
I don’t wan’t a mass rez revert by any means. Mercy 2.0 was a huge improvement over 1.0, but I don’t believe she needed a healing nerf. Making her worse doesn’t make the other supports better.
Actually, Jeff Kaplan stated in many different interviews before the developer update that they wanted to rework Mercy because she wasnt getting picked much. Lucio and Ana were the meta. Mercy’s ultimate was garbade before invulnerability because you would either die trying to use it or right after. Look at its patch history. Mass Rez had to be buffed so many times in order to be effective. Jeff said in a kotaku interview that Mercy’s ultimate had the greatest potential but at the moment it was the weakest of all support ults in what it did. Mass rez was a garbage ultimate because bringing back all 5 people where they died and then having the main healer die again is just feeding ult charge.
In Diamond+ Mercy was a troll pick with Mei having a higher pickrate. She was used in elos lower than that because of her simplicity. The devs were upset and as Jeff said “Mercy was designed to be the dedicated healer”, as on release you had the choice between Zen, Lucio and Mercy. But because of Mercy’s ult being so bad in spite of its potential (like Deadeye), she was overlooked in favor of running two off healers and then when the hero limit ws implemented Mercy because you didnt have much of a choice.
What this rework shows, is that a tempo rez is far superior to a mass rez. Mass rez just sets you up for failure.
Thank you. Someone with good sense.
At this point, it MIGHT kill her. But she still has the freaking regular cooldown Res. So she’ll probably come back.
I’m sick of this moth problem.
Thank god, Blizzard doesn’t listen to you. The idea is absolute bonkers and will make Mercy OP the likes of which we’ve never seen. Mass Rez + Burst AoE heal at the same time, get outta here, you guys are delusional 
