The Inevitable Bastion Rework

[ChibiFox-11511]

@Ipres-21123

That’s where you, as a player, have to find his niche. Situational awareness is key. Where are the enemy least expecting to see a surprise bastion? When are the enemy least expecting someone to roll a surprise bastion? The element of surprise is his strength, and where he shines the most. For me anyway, maybe you will find a niche for him that works better for you. For me, it’s pulling him out when no-one expects it.

I have over 100 hours on the hero… And i’m still looking.

It’s not about When he works… That’s what i think you may not have all the information about. It’s when you DO Surprise them… When you DO Change the situation, in your favor… And they still have the upper hand.

Which is nearly 100% of the time.

@Ipres-21123

Well luckilly Bastion also has recon mode, which you should be using. People who aren’t using his full potential can’t really complain about his lack of potential. Even so, he can force her back at 30m as long as she hasn’t already got him in her sights. If he has the drop on her, he can push her back and reposition when she ducks inside.

The math doesn’t hold up to that, no… Also, “Just don’t use his main gun then” Is a poor excuse by this point.

@Ipres-21123

Who says? This seems like one of those rules that people state without any basis or explanation.

The numbers say:

Bastion's real damage output (kinda)

I wanted to know how much damage Bastion did at different ranges, and also wanted to debunk the “Bastion does 450 DPS, he’s fine” arguments with math, so I decided to test it out at different ranges. Here’s the results, and some explanation of the tests below. 0m is meant to be a control so you have something to compare against. These tests were done on the PTR when the falloff changes (which bumped the minimum damage from 30% to 50%) were still only on that server. I suspect that the damage di…

And that was gathered from tests involving Training bots Which are a LOT Larger than a Widowmaker.

@Ipres-21123

If you already know you can be outsniped, then why position yourself where you are vulnerable to snipers? In that scenario, he could sit on the other end of the bridge and fire down on players trying to get onto the point from behind while they are focused on your team on the point. You are dividing their attention and creating a deadly firezone.

“Out Sniped” Implied distance between the two heroes being factored in.

Anything below 30 meters isn’t “Out Sniped” That’s “Out Pressured”
Which Bastion is built to excel at.

Which no “Sniper” Should come close to contesting in open sightlines, and direct fire.